I would like some member thoughts on this award. I bought it from a reputable source and the only question I really have with it is the mark.
thanks
Don
thanks
Don
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Let me try the attachments again.
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The mark looks like a "4" and it's my understanding that there shouldn't be a P number on an unofficial award variation like this one.GeorgeComment
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George, the mark is either a capital O or a zero. Perhaps one of the old makers of imperial awards???pseudo-expertComment
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Oh, okay -- an "O".
I'm not familiar with an Imperial maker "O". But if there was one, what would their mark be doing on a Third Reich-era award?GeorgeComment
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I don't know if the mark means anything but there was a maker of EKs with a O mark during WW1. Since this award had to belong to an old vet (prob w/rank) he could afford to go to a private jeweler to have this peice made. The craftmanship is very good and correct for the period.pseudo-expertComment
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Hi, I think we need the detail pics of this combo.Originally posted by ddoeringComment
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I hope that reputable source was as fair as Detlev, who sold one of these in a recent update for the regular price of the two single awards combined. With these "jeweller type" made combos, you can never be sure if it was assembled before or after 1945 (assuming the two components are the real thing, which we cannot see from those pics).
I would only go for one of the LDO marked, regulated types of this combo.
Cheers, FrankCheers, Frank
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Frank, I bought it from one of the MAX founders and have a lifetime garentee. He acquired it from the family of deceased veteran in germany through a contact in thier equivelent of the Veterans Administration. Gordon Williamson has an example of this type of award in his book, The Iron Cross of 1939. I took all of these factors into account before purchasing.
I wonder if Gordon would care to comment???pseudo-expertComment
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Hi Don,Originally posted by ddoering
Just to keep the facts straight, Gordon does NOT have that exact type of combo pictured in his book "The Iron Cross of 1939". The devil lies in the details with these badges, you might want to check again.
That´s nothing against your badge, it is just not in Gordon´s book.
Cheers, FrankCheers, Frank
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Frank, I never said "exact" as very few awards are exactly the same. On page 176 he has a drawing of one with a simular type of reverse. That is why I would like to hear from him. He must have seen one or it wouldn't be in his book.
Donpseudo-expertComment
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Take any EKs, real or repro and "similar" is there.
As Frank says, its in the "details"
Personally I would not buy this one. In the past I have turned down very good pieces because I was not sure, it was always hard to do. This one I would turn down and not loose a second of sleep.
Being a founder of the Maxx wont get you a warm beer in many bars, dont want to be an ass, but if he sold this with a clean conscience he doesnt know his business, and if he knew what he was selling...he should be kicked out of the Maxx because of the "strict rules" they have.
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Isn't Manions one of the MAX founding members too?Best regards,
TonyComment
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I considered buying this piece at the MAX last year, but opted for another a few aisles over - not because I doubted the authenticity but, as Frank mentions, because of the difficulty in determining when the two components were actually put together. While I didn't find the price for this particular piece too far out of line - the workmanship was pretty impressive! - I went with one priced closer to the value of a 1914 EK-I and spange when sold separately.
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