L15 for discussion

[grueni1208]

Orth is L/14 and PK nr 15

I know

Regards

Grueni

[grueni1208]

another Orth with Souval parts

EK II with maker's mark L/14

[Darrell]

I know

Regards

Grueni

But you just said above that L15 = Orth !

????

[Chet Sowersby]

I admit that at this time I am confuzed. I can understand Souval supplying parts to anyone for whatever reason. It's a well known fact. Just look at the cross that started this thread. It's typical Souval crud whether it be crosses or combat badges. However, how do we equate L/14 being the same as L/15? This is what I do not understand. Do I need to know a secret handshake to get into the understanding club?

Chet

[Darrell]

The point I"M trying to make is this ........

We must be VERY careful what we take as ASSUMPTIONS and OPINIONS are not later turned into FACT.

While I respect Grueni's knowledge ... I will quote his statement from the link he supplied up above:

QUOTE*
You are right.

But 1944 anybody used the maker's mark L15, because there is a LDO document (1944), which contains that Otto Schickle didn't have the licence to produced awards. But why there is a document from 1944?
I believe that F. Orth used the LDO number L15, too. L15 (LDO) is better to 15 (PKZ). All awards with a maker's mark L/15 are early pieces but awards with L15 are late pieces (zink). There are L/15 EK's with distinctive features (Schickle design), but there are L15 EK's with complete another features (Souval frame,...), too.
All these L15 EK's have Orth features.
There are no written evidences, it's only my assumption.
Regards
Grueni
UNQUOTE*

Note the yellow bolded statement.

[Hans N]

Chet,

L15 not L/15

[Don D.]

So is the badge that started this thread a good one or not?

[Darrell]

So is the badge that started this thread a good one or not?

That's the question of the day Don I did a search for "L15" and was amazed at the number of threads started about this exact same "type". I think it's noteworthy to read Peter Wiking's comments in this thread. Not often the "Floch Article" Man is wrong

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=L15+Cross

[Darrell]

And .... Frank H. about these very same crosses:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=L15+Cross

[grueni1208]

So is the badge that started this thread a good one or not?

It's an original EK I with maker's mark L15.
If all think these EK's are fakes, then I buy the EK I to a price of fake.

There are KVK's with the same L15 stamp.

Regards

Grueni

[grueni1208]

I would say that both EK's have the same front design.

Regards

Grueni

[grueni1208]

backside

[john mack]

Ek1 L15

Once Again To Keep The Thread Going

[john mack]

Pics

I Am Happy To Keep This One.

[john mack]

Another

A Different L15 To Ponder Over