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    #1

    L15 for discussion

    Currently on the estand: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=293044
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    #2
    How about a straight on pic of the reverse and the MM.
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      #3
      Original EK I by F. Orth with maker's mark L15.

      Regards

      Grueni
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      Daniel


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        #4
        Now I am confused...

        Originally posted by grueni1208 View Post
        Original EK I by F. Orth with maker's mark L15.

        Regards

        Grueni
        Hi guys,

        OK, we have an opinion by Grueni who I admit knows more about EK than I ever will. Yet I look at that cross and see what I believe is a Souval frame with Souval core. Without meaning to bore you with my analysis it has the die flaw in 12 o'clock arm, rounded inner beading, pointed corner beads, fat swas, dipped three etc. I am aware that Orth and Souval mixed parts but I don't see Orth here, neither in the frame or the core, only an L15 on the pin for Schickle. Would Orth not be 15 without the L?

        I have been advised that Souval sold completed EKI to Schickle, who then added their maker mark, to get around an issue Schickle had with the LDO. I don't know anything more about that though.

        I believe this cross to be authentic. Don't want to convey otherwise and negatively effect the sale, however could one of the big guns step in here offer their thoughts please.

        Regards to all,
        Stu

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          #5
          Hi Stu,

          I think you are right.
          Sometimes it get's really confusing, but Qrth is L/14
          So far I have seen a regular L/14 SB, a non-magnetic L/14 SB and an L/14 SB that was 100% Souval.
          NO pinbacks so far.

          L15 is indeed Schickle.

          Best regards,
          Ben

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            #6
            I love this stuff! So I understand it as an Orth...With Souval Frame and Core... and Stamped L15 for the firm of Schickle?
            Every way I look at it I see Souval, Stu has pointed out the factors that make me see Souval! I suppose if Schickle had a problem with the LDO? he could not have picked a better (Or worse for future pinpointing) maker to help (Souval) him get out of his Jamb....And cause confusion! in the very far off future! NOW!
            I love this stuff!
            Kevin

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              #7
              Why:
              L/15 = Schickle
              L15 = Orth

              http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=284039

              Regards

              Grueni
              Regards
              Daniel


              Search:
              !!! all awards with [L/15] mark !!!
              Otto Schickle
              All early 57er pieces

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                #8
                Thanks...

                Originally posted by grueni1208 View Post
                Why:
                L/15 = Schickle
                L15 = Orth

                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=284039

                Regards

                Grueni
                Hello Grueni,

                Thanks for the link. I read it and found it interesting. I will give it some thought. I have seen numerous Souval frame EK, with the narrow swas and level 3 Orth cores in them, as well as inter-mixed hardware but never before a Souval frame and Souval core EKI that is attributed to Orth solely by the L15.

                Kind regards,
                Stu

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                  #9
                  l15

                  better shot guys ,great thread !
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by grueni1208 View Post
                      Why:
                      L/15 = Schickle
                      L15 = Orth

                      http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=284039

                      Regards

                      Grueni
                      Sorry, but I don't buy your assumption as you state in the link. I'm with Mike K. on this one ...

                      15 or L/15 ...

                      L15 = L/15 or it's meant to be.

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                        Originally posted by Darrell View Post
                        Sorry, but I don't buy your assumption as you state in the link. I'm with Mike K. on this one ...

                        15 or L/15 ...

                        L15 = L/15 or it's meant to be.
                        While the frame and core look to be ok ... that pin and mm sure look floch(ish) to me ...

                        Wonder if he's been up to no good (again)?

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                          Why is Orth possible:
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                          Regards
                          Daniel


                          Search:
                          !!! all awards with [L/15] mark !!!
                          Otto Schickle
                          All early 57er pieces

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                            #14
                            to compare
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                            Regards
                            Daniel


                            Search:
                            !!! all awards with [L/15] mark !!!
                            Otto Schickle
                            All early 57er pieces

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                              #15
                              Orth is L/14 and PK nr 15
                              Schickle is L/15 and no PK nr is known.
                              Last edited by Hans N; 06-05-2008, 04:03 PM.
                              Regards
                              Hans N

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