Has any one mentioned E/Bays Golden Oak Leaves Swords & Diamonds starting bid $US $18,000.00 item # 2185296613. A day and half left to bid ??? Private ID from Oregon .
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Whoa!!!
What a winning combination! Private bidder identities, not full feedback and the same story that he had from his last set of diamonds, oakleaves, and swords (only not in "Gold"). What a joke, the chances of something like that surfacing are very slim and when the seller is not as honest as you would want...
Here is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=36047
Look at his feedback and look under "smoky666ss" (obviously one of those racist fanatics by the look of his name...) then look at his feedback and you will see the "OAKLEAVES, SWORDS & DIAMONDS 1945" this doof has previously "sold". Also I find this weird, smokey666ss left positive feedback for ethreecee but in turn received neg feedback ????? Just weird.Last edited by Rolf D.; 07-31-2003, 07:29 PM.
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"This rare and beautiful piece was acquired in October 1945 from the strong room of the Gauleiter’s headquarters in Ludenscheid, Westfalia. Research indicates those to have been the strong room offices of Gauleiter Josef Wagner or his successor. There were five (5) pieces taken that day, four in silver and this one in gold. These may have been a private purchase by Wagner..."
Wagner had SERIOUS problems with Hitler and was expelled from his office. It is apparent he was executed after the 7.20/44 attempt on Hitler's life.
But I'm sure this man who had plenty of problems with the party was purchasing top of the line military awards??? He couldn't wear them??? He couldn't award them??? But he had a strong room and kept some there. Or, a highly decorated vetern gave them to the Gauleiter for safe keeping?Last edited by Brian S; 08-01-2003, 07:36 PM.
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I think the seller is convinced he's selling the real deal.Attached FilesLast edited by Brian S; 08-01-2003, 07:35 PM.
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I think I remember this thing being on Ebay a few weeks ago. It would take a Busload of Faith to believe that these are original.
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Originally posted by Dave Danner27 out of ethrecee's last 32 feedback comments are for the same bunch of "Museum quality" German Order 3rd Class fakes. Two more are for Diamonds sets with the same Gauleiter Wagner story. Since he says "There were five (5) pieces taken that day, four in silver and one in gold". In the description of the set bought by "smoky666ss" he says he previously sold two of the sets (probably including the one bought by "cap259") for $3,550.00 each. By that measure, "smoky666ss" got a bargain set for $1,825.00.
As for "exetor", the PO'ed buyer, Vadim can probably tell you who that is, since he picked up a badge from him recently.
DaveWhen you go home
Tell them for us and say
For your tomorrow
We gave our today
--Inscription in the 5th Marine Division cemetery,
Iwo Jima 1945
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I would agree that these are fakes but if one wants an example for display this is going to be the only way one is going to be able to go as an original is unobtainable. I think these are very well done fakes and if they were priced as such I think I would buy a set as a display copy. I sure as heck wouldn't pay 18 Grand for these!! I wish I knew his source for these. I realize that the purist would never have even a copy for display in his or her collection but I think it is nice to be able to show the progression of the classes of the iron cross as long as a copy is presented as such. I have certainly seen this done in museum displays. That is just my opinion. ( I have thick skin so go ahead and blast away !).
Mike C.
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27 out of ethrecee's last 32 feedback comments are for the same bunch of "Museum quality" German Order 3rd Class fakes. Two more are for Diamonds sets with the same Gauleiter Wagner story. Since he says "There were five (5) pieces taken that day, four in silver and one in gold". In the description of the set bought by "smoky666ss" he says he previously sold two of the sets (probably including the one bought by "cap259") for $3,550.00 each. By that measure, "smoky666ss" got a bargain set for $1,825.00.
As for "exetor", the PO'ed buyer, Vadim can probably tell you who that is, since he picked up a badge from him recently.
Dave
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