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    #31
    Excellent thread! This cross looks very nasty It can easily convince a young collector-who has not done their homework properly-that it is a real rare stone-mint EK resulting in wasting of money!
    Keep it up!

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      #32
      Originally posted by LarryHW. View Post
      Questions for all...


      Do you think it will be harder to fake the EK1's? Will the pin set up make it a bigger challenge?

      Weren't high quality fakes inevitable, with the price of many (most?) EK2's now over $100 and the prices on EK1's usually now over $225 and showing no sign of dropping?

      How long before its DKIG's and DKIS's?
      You got it! Judge by your self. I picked up this one on yesterday to a local show in Italy.
      It looks like a nice, worn, unmagnetic and marked L/18

      Then you start thinking about it... hummm the hardware, it really doens't match the maker features, it reminds me of a W&L?
      Oh yes it must be an unknow variant! ahahah
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        #33
        Imo very dangerous if you don't pay the right attention at the first glance.
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          #34
          the maker mark and hardware set up for reference
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            #35
            Wowww...
            If this one is a Fake, it's a terrible Fake & not a new one ...
            I have one similar & you will see others in this tread :
            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=418209

            I hands no reason to think this is a Fake, but the similarities with the "L/18 EK2 Fake" ....
            Is yours non Magnetic too ?

            Michael

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              #36
              Hello Michael, you are right, this is a tricky one... but the similareties with the mistakes on the fake L/18 ekII posted by Grueni are quite evident.
              I confirm you the cross is not magnetic. Does yours has the same problems on the frame?
              stefano
              Last edited by HuD; 11-01-2010, 10:25 AM.

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                #37
                ciao Stefano,
                that flaw is really similar with those EKIIs but I have difficult to say "it 's fake".
                At the moment I 'm more for original than fake, I would like to see it next Saturday in my hands

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                  #38
                  Sounds good Fabrizio, i'll show you the cross on saturday
                  ciao
                  Stefano

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                    #39
                    Really interesting find. I'm curious to know what develops with this one, but for now I am convinced it is a fake. I don't know any Mayer EKs with that S&L style core, and the beading problems are damning.
                    Best regards,
                    Streptile

                    Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by HuD View Post
                      Then you start thinking about it... hummm the hardware, it really doens't match the maker features, it reminds me of a W&L?
                      Oh yes it must be an unknow variant! ahahah
                      This EXACT pin set up is very common on L/18 KM Badges, then until here the set up didn't give me any reason to doubt,
                      but the flaws similarities, give me some doubts too...

                      I will post best pics of mines...

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                        #41
                        the cross
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                          #42
                          Bottom & Left arm
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                            #43
                            the top & right arm, flaws are very close from the Fake one...
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                            Last edited by wvdparis2; 11-01-2010, 12:26 PM.

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                              #44
                              I'm surpised, too
                              Regards
                              Daniel


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                                #45
                                could the fake EK have used an original die set ????

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