KVK 1st w/o swords , mm 65..opinions..

[Doug Kenwright]

I received this cross in amongst a group of otherwise good combat awards..the problem is, that though this cross displays attributes of the L/15 Orth KVK 1 W/O swords crosses, in design and rear setup, it is marked 65 in a box, for Klein and Quenzer..

What exactly am i looking at here? postwar?

The cross is very nicely done, with polished highlights and a nice patina..the stippling in the arms is bold and pronounced, not soft and indistinct...

[Doug Kenwright]

rear

[Doug Kenwright]

Incuse relief 65 mm on pin..

[Doug Kenwright]

stippling..

[Steinar]

thats gotta be a Floch

[Doug Kenwright]

Hmm..yes..i punched in Floch KVK and came up this informative article..

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=147722

Most notable is the same type of incuse relief '65' mm used on the EK series fakes, and the type 'B' pin with the cut-away at the shoulder..<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Darrell]

thats gotta be a Floch

You gotta be correct

[Frank K]

Yep, one of the bad boys from Mr Floch. It's brother is below:

[Doug Kenwright]

..and this cross is on Bill Shea's site at the moment!..these things get around!
Perhaps if Bill lurks around here, he will see this article on these pesky little fakes..

[Doug Kenwright]

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[Frank K]

..and this cross is on Bill Shea's site at the moment!..these things get around!
Perhaps if Bill lurks around here, he will see this article on these pesky little fakes..

Just checked and must say I'm really chocked. The L/15 is the classic Floch KVK and if you've just a minimum knowledge about KVK's you can spot it a mile away in thick fog.

As far as I know Mr Shea is respected dealer, so how it can show up on his site is beyond me