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    L/12 Mark For Opinion

    I just recieved this 1914 EK1 that is marked L/12 for Junker, but the cross appears to be by another maker and not a TR era piece at all. I figured I'd post some shots here and get some opinions on the mark.
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    #2
    Here's the front. Not really looking like a TR piece is it?
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      #3
      The rear. Not TR era hardware either.
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        #4
        I think it's an original EK I by Juncker.
        I believe it's the version with typical Juncker crosshatching.

        Here is my Juncker EK II (non-magnetic) to compare.

        Regards

        Grueni
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        Daniel


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          #5
          from Niemann Update

          version with hinge and pin system
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          Daniel


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            #6
            Thanks for the input already. I have had opinions from two others and it certainly bears a resembalance to AWS made pieces. Here are a couple of pics of my AWS EK1s for comparison. Do they also have this cross hatching? I have to get to the bottom of this soon. This one here is a flatback like the L/12 I just showed.
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              #7
              Here's my pillowback by AWS. Any similarities?
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                #8
                AWS and C.E. Juncker are both from Berlin, therefore I would say it's possible that there was a cooperation between both maker's.

                Cooperation = same EK design

                Regards

                Grueni
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                Daniel


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                  #9
                  Steve,

                  I think the frames on the crosses in posts 6 & 7 look identical, although the cores differ (the crown, the date).

                  Robert

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                    #10
                    Well they are from the same maker but they do use diffrent cores. Any similarity to Junker though?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Steve Campell View Post
                      Well they are from the same maker but they do use diffrent cores. Any similarity to Junker though?
                      Here is a TR EKI by W&L (core) with a Juncker-type frame...

                      Robert
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                        #12
                        Thanks Robert, but that cross really does resemble a TR made piece. The one I'm posting doesn't. It looks a little earlier.

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                          #13
                          Steve,

                          Here's one I saved from an update. It doesn't have your core, but what do you think about the frame? Cross-hatched like yours? 'L/12' mark.

                          Robert
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                            #14
                            Is this cross hatching exclusive to Junker?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Steve Campell View Post
                              Is this cross hatching exclusive to Junker?
                              No, I see it on some of my other crosses, the '27' being the most pronounced. I see (2) different '27' frames, one with the cross-hatching, one without.

                              Robert

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