Hello ;-)
Happy new year!
It is not a Deschler & Sohn, München !!!
So, what is your opinion?
KR
Stefan
Happy new year!
It is not a Deschler & Sohn, München !!!
So, what is your opinion?
KR
Stefan
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Very nice!
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HankUnless it was nighttime, or the weather was bad, and you were running out of gas - then it was a sweaty nightmare, like a monkey f*ing a skunk.
~ Dan Hampton, Viper Pilot -
Very nice cross. It's not a Deschler, that's right, but I have some problems to place this one.
Flatwire catch with a mounting plate under, type of pin and hinge, huuh? There's some mm84 over this one, eg swordhandles, but they don't have a plate under the catch.
Hopefully somebody else can place your cross to a maker.Comment
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Hello,
are you both sure????? I personally don´t believe in this badge. They copy them in exactly this way with and without swords.
It´s new - and it is dagerous.
Please, take a closer look, ok?
Kind Regards
Max_PorterComment
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Well, we've only got these pics to work with right now...Originally posted by Max_Porter View Post
Has anybody else seen these as a "new fake"? Where have they started appearing Max? Shows, dealer sites, person to person...? I can't say I've seen them before. Which only means I haven't seen them.
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HankUnless it was nighttime, or the weather was bad, and you were running out of gas - then it was a sweaty nightmare, like a monkey f*ing a skunk.
~ Dan Hampton, Viper PilotComment
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it is very nice, i like it!Comment
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IMO a postwar reproduction!Comment
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Just because it's new it doen't mean that it's automatically dangerous. Think about all the (good) mint Deschlers that have appeared lately.Originally posted by Max_Porter View Post
If it's fake, yes then it's dangerous in the sense that it would be first mint fake as far as I know.
The problem for me is that it doesn't fit with a to me known maker. I don't know every maker and the variants so I won't call it a fake straight away.
On the other hand I'd never buy a similar one because of that.Comment
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Hello,
please have a look here for better and larger pictures:
http://forum.germantik.de/index.php?showtopic=10794
If this does´nt work:
@ 5tefan: Would you please post the same top pictures here you did on GermAntik. Thank you.
Kind Regards
Max_PorterComment
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Though mine didn't get nearly as much attention, the one I recently posted appears to be from the same maker, with same finish and detailing. The consensus was that mine was suspect- I've set up arrangements to return it to the dealer who sold it to me. Though the construction doesn't look shabby, the 'rails' highlighting the front edges of the cross really aren't that sharp and the stippled background isn't overly well defined either. It is "funny" that the only 2 of these I've ever seen were absolutely mint.
Check out my posting at:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=260919
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JoshComment
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Thanks for the reminder Josh, completely forgot about this one.
Must admit this is to me the last nail in the coffin. Although the catches are slightly different I believe we have the smoking gun and imo the conclusion is clear: FAKE
Both are stored in the hall of fake.Comment
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KVK´s
Hello,
both are dangerous new fakes. I would like to know the source of them. I saw the one with swords for the first time at the auction at Mili321. The seller came from Aachen in Germany, but he has deleted all the old auctions.
I personally think that "derafrikaheld" Carsten Staegemeir is in the house .....
We will see ....
Kind Regards
Max_PorterComment
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That is quite scarey then, the frosting and details are very good and convincing.Comment
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Derafrikaheld....oh yeah, believe I've heard about him before
Went over to the Militaria321 to see if I could spot anymore but no luck. Only a couple of very tired zinc mm4's, two weirdo kvk's that my daughter could have made and the standard Floch
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I'm getting real nervous about all these MINT KVKs hitting the market in recent weeks
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