Knights Cross opinions please

[MAL]

Hi All

Once again can I ask for your opinion on this Knights Cross, the dimensions are 48mm or 47mm. Sorry these are the only pics I have but one shows the weight. Is it original or a very good copy.

Thanks in advance
Mal

[Dietrich Maerz]

Is it original or a very good copy.

Neither - nor! It is a very BAD copy!

Dietrich

[Rylan]

Neither - nor! It is a very BAD copy!

Dietrich

I do not feel strongly either way because I have never even held a RK

Could you please explain why it is a fake for learning purposes? Is the "1939" too close to the bottom of the cross?

[Dave Kane]

A combination of frustration.....'do your own homework' and shameless plug for a great work....www.ironcross1939.com

Come on! It gets OLD after a while! Spend a half hour doing research and discover the information (here) at a key stroke!

[Dietrich Maerz]

Hi Rylan,

there were only a few (7 most likely) licensed manufacureres of the Knights Cross of the Iron Cross. Each of thoses manufacturers has unmistaken characteristica.

This cross is not one of the seven - so it should be very suspect - to say the least.

In this case the suspicion is also multiplied by the fact that this type comes with all kinds of manufactureres markings: 20, 2, L/12, 4,...That is a big no-no!

But especually the ring sits very high and the curvature of the arms is too much. The space for the swastika is very restricted. If you would put a good one next to it you would see immidiately what I mean.

It is a lot easier to learn the characteristika of the "7" then to learn the fakes, by the way.

This really is a known one and I call it "The new Rounder fake" in my book.

Dietrich


It is a lot easier to 'learmn

[karlo]

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[Rylan]

Hi Rylan,

there were only a few (7 most likely) licensed manufacureres of the Knights Cross of the Iron Cross. Each of thoses manufacturers has unmistaken characteristica.

This cross is not one of the seven - so it should be very suspect - to say the least.

In this case the suspicion is also multiplied by the fact that this type comes with all kinds of manufactureres markings: 20, 2, L/12, 4,...That is a big no-no!

But especually the ring sits very high and the curvature of the arms is too much. The space for the swastika is very restricted. If you would put a good one next to it you would see immidiately what I mean.

It is a lot easier to learn the characteristika of the "7" then to learn the fakes, by the way.

This really is a known one and I call it "The new Rounder fake" in my book.

Dietrich


It is a lot easier to 'learmn

Thanks for the info Dietrich, I appreciate it. I was looking at your book on your website, looks very informative and well done. Good luck, I am sure it will be a big hit with all the collectors.

Sorry guys I will do a bit more homework on the collecting front.

[ApathyL]

Hi fokes!

Just about the weight, its not right I think, because it should be between 28 - 32 gramms.

All the best ;


Les.

[Ludwig]

It´s just a piece of cheap junk, I´m afraid! Hope you haven´t paid too much for it.

[sunkist]

Hello Mal,one glance at it and it says"I'm a total bad fake,stay away"..
I'm new to RK too but like what the gang says,you can sure find loads of info here in WAF.Do a search on RKs and you be enlighten soon.

Regards
sim

[MAL]

Many thanks All

Joining WA has been the best decision I have made since I started collecting, It has saved me quite a bit on the rubbish that's out there. I really do appreciate all the help as a beginner.
Luckily enough I did not buy this cross although I would like an original some day, but I am sorry for the chap that did buy it on eBay for £300.00, it's a lot to lose on a bad copy.

Regards
Mal

[MAL]

Just to let you know the same seller has put another Knights Cross up for sale on ebay number 290181177259 this time with the lazy 2 maker mark.

[Stephen Stout]

Thanks for the info Dietrich, I appreciate it. I was looking at your book on your website, looks very informative and well done. Good luck, I am sure it will be a big hit with all the collectors.

Sorry guys I will do a bit more homework on the collecting front.

In addition, it has round corners, the 1939 doesn't look right, and the swastika looks a bit too skinny on the arms.

[jdw]

knights cross

hello all
the seller of this knights cross.is selling knights crosses on e-bay.
with photos.from spain.he seems to have lots.as i have looked at his old sales
feedback.and he has sold.at least five.all with photos.the prices are a joke.
the joke is all buyers.gave 100% feedback.(mugs).get your money back.
all the best.john

[Dr. Strangelove]

Research

I love doing research in both books and old threads, and Dietrich where is my BOOK ?????????????????!!!!!