EK1's Brass Cored.

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Hi Gents,
I came across these two brass cored EK1's this evening, and so far have not been able to id them. Can anyone help or give me their thoughts on them.
Many Thanks,
Dan.

Obverse 1.

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Reverse 1.

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This one, is a strange affair with the date being well out of line and the beading looks pretty crappy, also I think it may be a 'Floch' catch, would appreciate comments.
Dan.

Obverse 2.

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Reverse 2.

[upbeek]

dont like either of them,just because the core is brass does not mean that the frame and core should be sloppy
heres a brass core for comparison

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Hi Upbeek,
Thanks for your reply, must admit I'm not keen on either EK's also. I have a passion for brass cored EK's and thats why I posted them to see what others thought.
Many Thanks,
Dan.