Diamonds for Sale

[Dietrich Maerz]

http://berlin.kijiji.de/c-Kaufen-Ver...QAdIdZ23742099

This auction is currently up in Germany. Normally I would not post this POS, but since it seems that the owner of this "piece" already tried that the link and the critiques were removed from one German forum I felt compelled to make this public here.

More and more it happens that crooked dealers in Europe and in Germany in particular are threatening owners of fora legally and are very succesfull in supressing open opinions about certain offerings...

Maybe some questions via e-mail (right side of screen) can put more light on this very unique piece of sh... ah history.

Dietrich

PS: Evidently he even took the picture from a Google search...

[Stephen Stout]

Doesn't look anything at all like the real thing, only a bad fake.

[Ludwig]

Another piece of cheap crap...

[Adrian]

I asked:

Hello,
Can you guarantee that this is pre May 1945 manufacture?
Thank you,
Adrian.

The reply was:

HALLO,Ich verstehe kein englich,das Bild in der Zeitungsanzeige ist nicht das angebotene Original,alle in der Anzeige offerierten Teile sind echt(lt.Gutachten)und stammen aus der Zeit von 1939-1945.teilen Sie mir ggf.Ihre Telefonnummer mit,es wird Sie dann ein englich sprechender Kollege anrufen.MFG Gregor

I have no idea what this means, hope someone can translate?

I also got a completely seperate email which I initially deleted as spam but when I saw the word 'kijjii' I retrieved it:

The guy had no permission to post this in the Kijjii.
If you need further information, please contact me again.
Regards

[Ludwig]

I asked:

Hello,
Can you guarantee that this is pre May 1945 manufacture?
Thank you,
Adrian.

The reply was:

HALLO,Ich verstehe kein englich,das Bild in der Zeitungsanzeige ist nicht das angebotene Original,alle in der Anzeige offerierten Teile sind echt(lt.Gutachten)und stammen aus der Zeit von 1939-1945.teilen Sie mir ggf.Ihre Telefonnummer mit,es wird Sie dann ein englich sprechender Kollege anrufen.MFG Gregor

I have no idea what this means, hope someone can translate?

I also got a completely seperate email which I initially deleted as spam but when I saw the word 'kijjii' I retrieved it:

The guy had no permission to post this in the Kijjii.
If you need further information, please contact me again.
Regards
Bernd Poser

I don´t understand English. The picture in the advertisement is not the offered piece. All items offered in the ad are originals (according to COAs) and have their origin in the period 1939–45. Give me your telephonenumber and an english speaking collegue will call you up.

[Adrian]

Thank you Ludwig,
I hope that there aren't too many disappointed members now knowing the beauty in the photo isn't the one being offered. Never mind, you might get an original by mistake.

[Dietrich Maerz]

I also e-mailed the guy! What a waste. Here is his first answer:

"Guten Morgen,Niemand hat das Muster in der Anzeige als echt bezeichnet,Sie können in allen Foren "Krähen"einfacher wäre es,Sie melden sich mit Ihrer Unterstellung mit juristicher Postadresse,um eine Unterlassungsklage erhalten zu können."

He basically admits it not a real piece since he never say so. Then he wants my address to send me a gag order from his lawyer.... So I answered him and thanked him that he admitted that the piece is crap. Then came this...

"Guten Tag,....Ihre Postadresse wird ja bekannt,wenn die von Ihnen angekündigten Schritte erfolgen,wobei die Argumentation sich selbst ad,absurdum führt,bestreiten Sie die Existenz von siebenundzwanzig Trägern der Auszeichnung?SIND SIE " JUDE"???.Haben Sie den Verkäufer vom 21.9.07 in Gunzenhausen(ähnliches Teil)schon angezeigt?Wo sind Sie arglistig getäuscht,oder betrogen worden!"


He compares his POS with a real piece which will be auctioned of end of this month in Gunzenhausen and then he asks me whether I'm a "JEW"???

After I did send him another e-mail the piece disappeared....he caved in...

Dietrich

[karlo]

hiya....does anyone have an original in their collection??

[wehrpasswilly]

Diamonds award

I have a multi piece construction REPRO produced about 5/6 yrs ago in LDO case based on an original period piece - multi piece construction in silver plate which is begining to tarnish a little with CZ diamonds its the bees knees. Everyone I've shown it to wants to buy it from me and its 100 times better than what this guy is showing and I only paid I believe $149.00 (or approx £80) at the time - sorry no scans as my collection is in safekeeping in the bank with my immient move abroad otherwise I would post scans

[karlo]

how many of these awarded?... surely families hold onto these awards?

[rkdek]

Gunzenhausen is a show, not an auction. How does he know what will be offered there next weekend?

[Dietrich Maerz]

Obviously you are both right and wrong:

http://62.128.3.13/ufItemInfo.aspx?a_id=16&i_id=3702

Dietrich

[Ludwig]

That Arschloch better be careful. I guess he hasn´t heard about the German couple who (this is at least what everyone I have spoken with believe!) fooled the wrong guy(s) and had to pay with their lives for it. In 2005 this was. What an idiot!

[rkdek]

Dietrich,

Thank you for correcting me, I didn't know that auctionhouse!

[Herr Register]

Is there a link to the story of the german couple who ripped someone and died? Sounds interesting!