Schinkel EK II rare version

[grueni1208]

The rarest version of a Schinkel EK II.

"Schinkel-intermixed"
threepart and magnetic

typical Schinkeldesign:
- little swastica
- widht: 43,40 mm
- height: 43,29 mm

typical Schinkel- und standarddesign:
- framedesign (intermixed)

typical standarddesign:
- number design


Regards

Grueni

[grueni1208]

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[zambrotta11]

Nice schinkel, Grueni.

Reagrds,
Stephen

[George Stimson]

Here's another one.

[George Stimson]

Reverse.

[George Stimson]

Here it is compared with the more common Schinkel A Type (on the left).

[Mark Stevens]

Grueni, I have a very similar cross except mine is maker marked "6". Does your cross have any markings?

[Sal Williams]

Can someone elaborate on this? I don't know anything about it.

Thanks, Sal

[grueni1208]

Grueni, I have a very similar cross except mine is maker marked "6". Does your cross have any markings?

No.
I believe all schinkel and round 3 versions don't have a maker's mark.

Your EK II have the same measures?

Regards

Grueni

[grueni1208]

Can someone elaborate on this? I don't know anything about it.

Thanks, Sal

I believe it was produced 1940 (only my own theorie) because it's an intermixed version of an EK II. It was mixed between a standard schinkel design (littel swastice, little measures) and a normal EK II design (number design). The frame is mixed betwenn both designs.
If you compare this schinkel version you find differences to a standard schinkel EK II, but differences to a normal EK II, too.

It's the same like the wound badge first pattern with a standard wehrmacht helmet. They are very rare, too.

Regards

Grueni

[ben bijker]

Grueni, I have a very similar cross except mine is maker marked "6". Does your cross have any markings?

Mark, I have to see the first one with a mm yet, but maybe a picture would help.

If possible, mail it to :
benbijker@cs.com
and I will post it here.

Best regards,
Ben

[Minas Henrik]

Hi all!

Nice schinke indeed

[Paratrooper]

Hi!

I've a unmarked cross which looks like this cross in Posting #1 from Grueni.
I would say the same like Grueni. It's not really like a "standart" Schinkel A but also not like a "standart" EK 2 1939.

The numbers in the date looks the same. The core is convex and it is the opposite of a rattle core piece. The core fits exactly in the framework. The whole cross is a good example of outstanding high quality in manufacturing crosses.
In the center of the frame one can see cross hatching. The HK is very small. There are numerous die flaws in the beading. Unfortunately one can see them only from the side and my cam doesn't work. Because of that i can't show you pics of them actually.

Till i saw Gruenis cross i thought it's an early not marked cross of Juncker, because of the typicall hump, the cross hatching and the convex core.
Nevertheless I was not sure if i'm right with my Juncker theorie.
I am pleased about each opinion.

The data of the cross are as follows:

• 3 piece construction with iron core and solid, not silverplatet, nickelsilver
• High: 43,71 mm
• Widh: 43,63 mm
• Thickness: 4,24 mm
• Widh of the swaz: 7,8mm
• Weight: 20,8 gramm

[Steinar]

Schinkel crosses are just awesome. Lovely!

[Paratrooper]

The rarest version of a Schinkel EK II.

"Schinkel-intermixed"
threepart and magnetic

typical Schinkeldesign:
- little swastica
- widht: 43,40 mm
- height: 43,29 mm

typical Schinkel- und standarddesign:
- framedesign (intermixed)

typical standarddesign:
- number design


Regards

Grueni

Hi Grüni!

I want safe this piece with the data in my privat database, because it's maybe not the same like mine but i can imagine that it's from the same manufacturer. Ergo it's very much interesting for me to know as much data as i could have.

Can you please give me the following data?

• The weight of the cross?
• Is the core convex?
• I cannot see it on the pic! Is there a hump for the suspension ring at the frame of yoer piece?
• Last Question! Please tell me the widh exactly widh of the "little swaz"?

Kind Regards
Andreas