Veryy strange Ek2

[MedalMike]

Found this on an auctionhouse, but i dont like the straight beading..its a light cross and the core rattles...not a good sign i guess am i right?
will attach a picture of the front..

[keifer kahn]

Mike,

Rattling cores are generally associated with early originals.
In any case a rattling core doesent mean fake or real.
I actually prefer the core to rattle a bit.

As for the cross shown,im reserving my comment till you get better pics.

Based on the one provided,the cross has a somewhat "artificial" look.

[Thomas E Hansen]

Maybe its good??... but try to take a look in the big yellow book from Niemann, there is a cross, very similar. But i dont have the book right here, so this is the best i can do.

Regards Thomas.

[MedalMike]

Thanks..will have a look better pictures are coming today...

[MedalMike]

Posted the new pics...

[Adrian]

Hi Mike,
Try a search for 'Schinkelform B'. It could be or is trying to be one of these. It looks the right shape but I'm not sure on the dates.

[Tim K.]

Take look at posts #20 and #21 in the Fakes gallery. I think it's the same type.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=101958&page=2


Tim

[MedalMike]

Looking to some threads with the same cross, its still not clear if this one is wartime or not...interesting!! Could be a new type of cross...Bob Hritz has the same one and had the cross for more than 35 years...
Could be a nice discussion

[Robert P.]

Take look at posts #20 and #21 in the Fakes gallery. I think it's the same type.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=101958&page=2


Tim

Good call Tim,

It's the same cross, only the paint on the swasi is a little heavier. The dates, beading, everything matches up to the 'straight-leg' fake, if indeed this cross in the fakes gallery is a fake. Looking through our archives and the thread 'Rick S' started 'EKII list pics' I find no original that matches this cross. It has the looks of a one-piece cross to me, but maybe not.

Bob, is your cross a one-piece, and does it really compare to this?

Robert

[mdj]

I have examined this particularly cross and its definitately a 3 piece construction...But the (very) little weight concernes me. Its smaller in size than a regular EK II.

It worries me also that the core is rattling heavy. Theres space between the beading and the core. In the pictures in post 20/21 I also see a lot of shadow and it looks it has the same effect...

martin

[eraser]

i think its a copy look at the strange 3 on the back to thin never seen it before

i'm not sure but it just look strange

[Biro]

This is a well discussed cross.

Most consider it fake, some don't. Those who don't generally own one.

Marshall

[ben bijker]

I have to admit that I ain't really sure on this one.
I was offered one a while back with a DN COA, at a very modest price.
But since I have seen one of these one a german dealer's site (Thomas Huss I think) with an extemely big gap between the frame and the core, nad have read about it a lot, I decided to let it go.

I still think it is a very good copy of the schinkel-B...

Best regards,
Ben