Spang from e-stand please discus

[kokstok]

There are some doubt about this spange i have currently on sale on the e-stand, bought from claus Phillip.

When i bought it was already discussed
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[kokstok]

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[ben bijker]

well, since you asked for opinions, here's mine:

The swas isn't square
The bird appears to be tilted to the right.

I'm NOT an expert in this field, I have seen a lot of Spange that I would pass on, but are given the thumbs up here on the forum.

I would pass on this one.

Best regards,
Ben

[Darrell]

I believe the wierd shape is attributed to the photo angle. I wouldn't throw this one away just yet. Can you make a scan?

[Brian S]

Is that a lack of symmetry between the two wings? Bird's beak looks unusally short. Chest looks wide. Is that all angle? A better scan would help.

[Peter Wiking]

The spange is a fake in my opinion.

1: Beak is missing.
2: Details are missing compared to the left leg.
3: The vein is missing in this oakleaf.
4: These surfaces are not covered with finish/paint.

Peter

[Das Reich]

i am sure that the posts like the ones by brian and peter are the kind that many, me included, love to see. thanks guys.

[kokstok]

I'll withdraw the item from the e-stand and try to get my money back.
One thing is bothering me that the person who wanted the spange to be discused hasn't joint the discussion.

[Don D.]

Rene, why would that bother you. I asked you to put it up for discussion. If I had then jumped in at the start and said I thought it was fake how many responses would you have recieved? People see a moderator has responded and feel the matter is closed.

By waiting until the end I can see I was not the only person to have a problem with this spange for many of the same reasons that have already been given.

[ben bijker]

Rene, why would that bother you. I asked you to put it up for discussion. If I had then jumped in at the start and said I thought it was fake how many responses would you have recieved? People see a moderator has responded and feel the matter is closed.

By waiting until the end I can see I was not the only person to have a problem with this spange for many of the same reasons that have already been given.

I fully agree to that, a wise decision IMO.

But I still don't like the Spange, and I would have passed on it.

@ kokstok:
The original discussion was inconclusive, but you still bought it.
What made decide to put it up for sale again so quickly??

Ben

[kokstok]

I fully agree to that, a wise decision IMO.

But I still don't like the Spange, and I would have passed on it.

@ kokstok:
The original discussion was inconclusive, but you still bought it.
What made decide to put it up for sale again so quickly??

Ben

Dear Ben, i had already bought the spange, and the original discussion did not conclude it was a "fake" and the fact that i am selling it is because i am changing my collecting field, please do not think anything else.

[ben bijker]

Dear Ben, i had already bought the spange, and the original discussion did not conclude it was a "fake" and the fact that i am selling it is because i am changing my collecting field, please do not think anything else.

Fair enough René , but we all have seen enough weird actions lately that make one suspicious....


Regards,
Ben

[kokstok]

Fair enough René , but we all have seen enough weird actions lately that make one suspicious....


Regards,
Ben

I will never sell a fake for original, everyone who know's me would subscribe that

[ben bijker]

I will never sell a fake for original, everyone who know's me would subscribe that

René, I didn't mean to incriminate you, but as I already wrote.
odd things happen.
It seems a bit odd when you buy a spange, put it up for discussion, and then put it up for sale again right away.

And you might be right, there are very little people I trust in this hobby.
It's more and maore about the money, if you know what I mean......

Regards,
Ben

[kokstok]

[It seems a bit odd when you buy a spange, put it up for discussion, and then put it up for sale again right away.



Regards,
Ben[/quote]


I checked, the first posting was 07/05/2006