Urgent Help Please on EK2 MM '16'

[DavidM]

Hello

I have recently received this EK2 maker marked '16' for Alios Rettenmaier. The cross has a magnetic core and is of three piece construction.

However, I'm not convinced that this is a genuine '16' EK2. I feel that the ring stamp may have been added at a later date. All the '16' marked EK2's that I can find anywhere have a stamp and not an incuse mark. In turn that leads me then to doubt the authenticity of the whole piece - although I can't find any fakes that seem to match this one.

Can anyone help with this, as if it isn't a real '16', (regardless of whether the EK itself is a genuine piece), I will return it to the dealer I bought it from, but I need to know very quickly so I can return it within the inspection period.

Many thanks in advance.

Regards
David

[DavidM]

Rear of EK2 MM '16'

[DavidM]

Ring mark on EK2 MM '16'

[hagwalther]

Er, we the number looks like '76' to me.

Are you sure it's '16'?

Regards ...

[DavidM]

Hello

It was advertised by the dealer as maker '16'. I thought it was just a bad stamping. Under a 20x loop it may be a '76' - which of course would confirm my doubts that it's not a '16' !!

I'm going to take a real close look at it, and also, if I can find any, compare it to other '76'. If it is a '76' I'll be happy as I don't have an Ernst L Muller in my collection, and their marks are incuse, as this is.

Thanks for that.

Regards
David

[ben bijker]

dealers as well have some trouble with maker marks.
I have seen souval 98 crosses advertised as 68, 66 etc.

To me it reads 76 as well, they are marked in incuse relief as well.

Regards,
Ben

[DavidM]

Hello

Many thanks for that. It seems it is a '76', which is good as I don't have a '76' in my collection. Sorry, that should read I didn't have a '76' but it now appears that I do.

I have found a couple of '76' marked crosses on the forum and this one looks like a match for those.

It would appear that it's not just the dealers who have trouble with the ring stamps !! Perhaps I need new glasses, or to stop drinking beer on Friday nights. At least I was correct in saying it wasn't a '16'

Regards
David

[LuckyLuudje]

It happend to me a lot of times before that I recieved another cross then expected because they didn't read the mark correct.

But take a look at my 2 mm76's.
Notice the 2 different maker marks.
And that the frames are both sloppy soldered and not nicely aligned.

Regards,
Luud

[LuckyLuudje]

makermarks

[LuckyLuudje]

soldering

[DavidM]

Hello

Many thanks for the photos Luud. Mine is a perfect match to the one to the right hand side in your photo. Yes, I have a '76'. At least I wasn't going daft when I said it didn't match up to any '16' !!

Another one off the list of manufacturers that I have to get, even if it wasn't the one I was expecting.

Regards
David

[George Stimson]

I have two "76" EK 2s -- one of which was sold to me as a "70."

[ben bijker]

I have two "76" EK 2s -- one of which was sold to me as a "70."

Same here, I received 3 "75" before I got a "76"

Ben