DKiG Heer, Cloth.

[Ralph A]

These pictures are posted at the request of a fellow Forum member, and to get the images into the database. I acquired this one from Niemann's:

(See the Luftwaffe Cloth version Here.)

[Ralph A]

close up

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[Ralph A]

closer.

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[Calvin Hall]

Hello Ralph,

Nice photos.

I notice that the weave of white background is running vertically. I have also seen examples where the weave runs horizontally.

Does the direction of the weave have anything to do with the originality of these pieces?

Thanks for posting.

Calvin

[George Stimson]

"Does the direction of the weave have anything to do with the originality of these pieces?"

I don't know, but the weave on my Heer cloth DKiG (also from Detlev) runs horizontally.



George

[Ralph A]

Hello Calvin!

I was about to PM you that the pics were posted when I saw
your post, above.

According to the article in our very own Forum (by François Saez and Jacques Calero) "two versions exist, differentiating themselves essentially by the quality of the white embroidery on which is embroidered the swastika."

I'm interpreting this as referring to the two different weaves, as is obvious when you compare my two cloth crosses.

As to the direction of the "linear" ones (horizontal vs. vertical), I've not heard that this makes a difference.

I would however be suspicious of a diagonally-running weave.

[Ralph A]

Comparison.

Here's a "side-by-side" to illustrate the differences in the weaves of the white backgrounds of the two pieces:

(Note interesting, shared "die characteristic" to the tops of the "9's" )

[Dietrich Maerz]

Vertical-Horizontal?

I have 6 German Crosses- Cloth Version. 5 have vertical running lines, 1 horizontal, none diagonal.

All 6 have the same die flaw on the top of the "9".

regards,

Dietrich

[Ralph A]

Hello Dietrich.

Thanks for the input. The "diagonal" comment was strictly "tounge-in-cheek".

During manufacturing, the embroiderer probably used the direction of the weave of the white background to set up his machine to stitch on the swastika at the correct angle. Therefore, a finished piece would necessarily have to run either horizontally or vertically, or the swazi would be canted incorrectly.

In other words, a piece put together with the weave running diagonally would result in the swazi being "not mobile".

[George Stimson]

Mine has the flaw also.



George

[Dietrich Maerz]

Diogonal

Hi Ralph,

I took it as such

However, in the field of investigation it might be neccessary to state the obvious also


I agree with you, it is striktly by chance. It is interesting that all the '9's have the same flaw. My crosses come from at least 3 if not 4 different manufacturers.

By the way, you might remember the discussion about the reverse tag a while back? Here's a picture of my reverse tag.
(No., RM 3.75 )

Dietrich

[Calvin Hall]

Here's my cloth DK...appears to have been removed from a tunic at some point.

Calvin

[Calvin Hall]

Really, here it is...

[Calvin Hall]

Here's the reverse...

[Calvin Hall]

Here is the best I can do on a close-up photo of the date.

Also, note that the silver wire running around the outside of the wreath is flat as opposed to the rounded wire shown on the above crosses.

White background has a horizontal weave.

The '9' has the typical flaw at the top.

Calvin