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    Opinions on Early Zinc Spange

    Opinions on this zinc Early EK 2 Spange. This has only one clip in the back with only one pron left. Seems to be 30.8 millimeter wide and 31.2 millimeter high. What do you think?
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      #3
      Has anybody ever seen an early Spange like this made out of zinc?
      George

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        #4
        I've seen a few.
        Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
        Decorations of Germany

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          #5
          If you study the swastika and the area behind the swastika, you can clearly see this is a casting. Not for my collection.

          Bob Hritz
          In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

          Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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            #6
            Dennis, there's a few authentic ones of this kicking around here, can you get measurements from an owner to check if it is indeed a casting? but make sure you compare with an authentic one, I'm sure you know there's a very good repro of this!
            I'd post a pic but I'm away from my computer for a few months...
            regards
            jon

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              #7
              Hi!

              Sorry to say but this is my first one to see in zink

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                #8
                I'm not so sure that it's a casting. The back looks remarkably like a stuck piece as well as the details of the eagle's plumage are quite crisp. Look at the legs and talons also.

                Are you sure that it's zinc and not a heavily tarnished and crusty silver plated tomback?

                Just for curiousities sake what does it weigh?

                Tony
                An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

                "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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                  #9
                  I would love to see this one cleaned up a little so we could see if there is any stippling underneath all that gunk!

                  There is evidence of some corrosion to the swaz area and the date bar and it's just possible this corrosion may have contributed to the very crude looking appearance the swaz now has?

                  Regardless, like Bob, this is not one I would jump at unless it could be proven the swaz was so malformed purely due to corrosion - and what appears to be casting marks in the area surrounding the swaz is actually stippling poking out from under the crud....

                  They did exist in zinc - here's a zincer I bought from Niemann years ago and have long since sold.

                  Marshall
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                    #10
                    This type of the early Spange 2nd class did (besides BM) also exists in zinc.
                    Here is my example of this type in zinc.

                    Measurements

                    Width 31.00 mm
                    Height 31.23 mm

                    KR
                    Pascal
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                    Last edited by Pascal Huysmans; 07-07-2006, 07:56 AM.

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                      #11
                      pascal, could you please post the reverse?


                      stefan

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by StefanK.
                        pascal, could you please post the reverse?


                        stefan
                        Of course, no problem.
                        Here you are.

                        KR
                        Pascal
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                          #13
                          another try

                          I tried to get a better picture of the area behind the swastika. It is very hard to see the detail because of the gray.
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                          Last edited by Dennis GT; 07-11-2006, 11:55 PM.

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                            #14
                            A considerably better pic than the one you first posted!

                            The tell tale flaws and stippling patterns I would expect to see in an original are clearly there and what looked like casting pock-marks around the swaz in the first photo, is indeed stippling when viewed in the second photo. The swaz itself clearly has the slightly non-symmetrical arms that all other original versions of this type and class have.

                            Once again, a dangerously bad photo has nearly spelt doom for a perfectly good piece.

                            OK, it's not the prettiest example of this type I've seen, but Zinc versions seldom are. Based on the new picture - and without the benefit of any dimensions - I have no problem with this spange, for what it's worth.

                            Marshall

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                              #15
                              I agree with Marshall. I also can't see anything wrong with the Spange from Dennis.

                              KR
                              Pascal

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