S&L 800 KC - Opinions please

[Doc]

Hi All,

I would like to ask for your assistance. Could you please, tell me your opinion on this KC.
Thank you in advance,
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[Dietrich Maerz]

I can clearly see that this cross is an unmarked B-Type and therefore a production made after the first B-Type model 935-4 (which was found in Klessheim but I have not found an awardee). The core is unmagnetic and the rim obviously is not silver.

IMHO a post war piece with fairly good quality. However, if you want to collect the real deal, one could also say it's a fake - at minimum it's a reproduction since it was never made to be awarded.

I can't say a lot about the case but I rather think this is a mute point!

Dietrich

[robert60446]

IMHO a post war piece with fairly good quality. However, if you want to collect the real deal, one could also say it's a fake - at minimum it's a reproduction since it was never made to be awarded.

...And with € 7.000,00 price tag i would say rather very expansive fake (in this case it is a fake - nothing else).

[Dave Kane]

I can clearly see that this cross is an unmarked B-Type and therefore a production made after the first B-Type model 935-4 (which was found in Klessheim but I have not found an awardee). The core is unmagnetic and the rim obviously is not silver.

IMHO a post war piece with fairly good quality. However, if you want to collect the real deal, one could also say it's a fake - at minimum it's a reproduction since it was never made to be awarded.

I can't say a lot about the case but I rather think this is a mute point!

Dietrich

Chris Jenkins may have some info regarding a 'Panzer man' and a 935/4....
Detlev may too!

The case is fine and if the ribbon is (full) length...these factors sure suggest a degree of guilt (knowledge) that the Cross isn't worth the going rate of $8k by itself let alone combination at 7EU!!!

[Doc]

Thank you very much for your kind assistance. I really appreciate it!
Doc

[Dietrich Maerz]

The case is fine and if the ribbon is (full) length...these factors sure suggest a degree of guilt (knowledge) that the Cross isn't worth the going rate of $8k by itself let alone combination at 7EU!!!

I don't think it's deliberate pairing of a good case and a good ribbon with a bad cross. That's just how they came and still are comming. I would think that S&L had quite some stock of cases and ribbons. Remember the one you bought on E-bay! Wasn't the case and ribbon good?

Dietrich

[robert60446]

Wasn't the case and ribbon good?

Dietrich,
By "good" you mean period original? Or made post war by S&L, but the quality is the same and nobody can tell the difference...

[Dietrich Maerz]

I really don't know but I would lean towards a "produced by suppliers to S&L, was in stock at S&L before the war ended and was sold after the war ended". Which is actually "period".

[Harry]

The case is period. It seems S&L had a stock of these left over after the war and even used the surplus for their early 1957 RKs.