Spanish Cross w/ sword (screwback and flatpin CEJ 800)

[elkcollector]

Hi, need some opinions on these 2.

Are they ok? What is a reasonable offer?
And one more, if to choose between these 2,
which one is more collectible??

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[Ludwig]

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I wouldn´t buy any of them.

[elkcollector]

I wouldn´t buy any of them.

Why?? Can you enlighten me so i can learn something?

[Ludwig]

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Bad quality. Stiff eagles. Ugly grips on the swords. Swastika not centered on one of the crosses. Check other threads here.

[Frank Heukemes]

The one with the screwback has some potential, quite interesting. The CEJ one is a bad fake. Study CEJ SCs and you will see that NOTHING matches the original crosses. Not the design, not the maker mark, not the setup.

[jacques]

the first (CEJ) is a bad copy.
the second could be a "835" marked cross, but it must be examinated closely.
jacques

[Sal Williams]

I inspected my 835 closely and it seems possible this is the same. better pics with less glare might prove it one way or the other.
best, Sal

[jacques]

just to compare a good (left) and a copy (right) of the Juncker cross

[jacques]

reverse and MM
800 marked crosses must be considered as suspicious.

[jacques]

Mm