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    #16
    Perhaps the pin is also replaced?
    Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
    Decorations of Germany

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      #17
      Hello guys and thanks for your help. the pin has same patina on it as cross reverse does I cant see any file marks on pin, would more pics of pin help? if so I will take more. bb

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        #18
        Dont think i was right about the pin "filed down", the top off the pin at the hinge dont match a maker 1 like my EK. Sorry but it´s kinad bad light here this time off the year. Then Richard can be right that it´s replaced, and i will go on that also. But still IMO it´s made by maker nr 1, L/10 "beside the pin".
        Mikael

        Originally posted by billybob
        Hello guys and thanks for your help. the pin has same patina on it as cross reverse does I cant see any file marks on pin, would more pics of pin help? if so I will take more. bb

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          #19
          Could this revelation give some light as to who manufactured these round 3's? Sorry if I am making a dumb statment / question

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            #20
            There have been a few round '3' EK1's posted in the past. It wouldn't be difficult to find a few examples and compare them to this one and to Deschler marked EK1's to see if the frames match.

            Just a thought that would help in this discussion.
            Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
            Decorations of Germany

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              #21
              Maybe my deschler is still on the front page? havent lookt lately. Any way there is pic´s off my here if you search and also a lot off others, the Ek2 do have the same rim but imo not the same core.
              Mikael

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                #22
                Hello Mikeal, I searched and couldnt find your ek1. Would you mind posting it here if thats ok? bb

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Richard Gordon
                  There have been a few round '3' EK1's posted in the past. It wouldn't be difficult to find a few examples and compare them to this one .....
                  OK, I dug out the pics of my Round 3 EK1 and a few more I have on file including one belonging to 'Roman'... and by some distance, this is the type of frame and pin that I would consider 'typical'....

                  (note the messed up beading on the 6 O'clock arm is quite distinctive...)

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                    #24
                    And here, the reverse of mine ...again, the pin set-up I consider 'typical'..
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                      #25
                      But interestingly, the one pictured in Detlev Niemanns book appears more of a match for the frame of yours.... particularly at the 6 O'clock spot, and the inner corners of the beading...

                      The pin - could be any number of explanations, but IMO, does not constitute anything more than 'non-typical'.

                      Deschler I think has been offered as a possible maker of these on more than one occaision, so I am looking forward to seeing a comparison of the two frames.... but you GOTTA get better pics - in focus and straight on, or not much more can be done...

                      regards


                      Marshall

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                        #26
                        Biro, I will try for better pics now give me a few minutes though.thanks,bb

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                          #27
                          Here is position your arrow pointed to
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                            #28
                            another one
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                              #29
                              another 1
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                                #30
                                one last one of cross, just got camera, not good at pics, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP GUYS bb
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