DKiG help!

[Dave Kane]

Hello guys! Although I haven't studied these in detail I have provided my opinion to a friend who picked this up yesterday!

As a 'back-up' I'd like the opinion of the fellows who know the ins and outs of these

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[tom hansen]

Your suspicions are correct! What is the maker mark that they have on that one, anyway? Do you have any better detailed photos of the wreath and date? I think it is always good to catalog these, as I do not recall that particular one being posted on the fake thread.

[Dave Kane]

Thanks Tom! The makeer mark is '1' with a '21' on the back of the pin....it's described as 'heavy' as compared to a Zimmermann

[DonC]

Dave, as you know I am a uniform guy, but the wreath gives me pause, for a couple of reasons... I wil let some of the other experts register their thoughts.

Don

[tom hansen]

Thanks Tom! The makeer mark is '1' with a '21' on the back of the pin....it's described as 'heavy' as compared to a Zimmermann

A "1" with a "21"? I think they were a little confused. The rivets, hinge and pin are really bad. The style of catch is seen on alot of fakes, but some period S&Ls. The wreath looks quite rough from the photos given and the swaz looks "miniturized" relative to other DKiGs. Again, more photos would be nice to see some details.

[IVAN]

Hi dear Dave,

my opinion absolutely no way to be an original cross, sorry.

Ivan

[Peter Wiking]

The "patina" and gunblue color of the wreath is enough alone to run away.
Not a genuine cross.

Cheers.
Peter

[Dave Kane]

Thanks all! I just wanted to affirm my thoughts!