Rudel & Hager Group, DKiG, Flgzgf+Beobachter, Göring Zigarettenetui

[Scott C.]

It might all be original, but I agree about the cig case - not the uaual high quality workmanship one would associate with a product Goering would commission and present to a national hero. In addition, The wreath of the PO badge looks like it was painted on - nothing like the stunning gilt finish found on GWLs. Just my humble opinion...

Scott

[Dave Kane]

Come on boys! Let's allow the full 'picture' before jumping on the entire offering

I agree with the commentary so far but we don't know what is to come

We need to 'look' at the whole offering...........

[Pieter Verbruggen]

...I would like to see the rest of the grouping before giving remarks...
Pieter.

[Hank C.]

...I would like to see the rest of the grouping before giving remarks...
Pieter.

I second that. There's still a lot of room to cover to reach the $70k mark.

Hank

[Brian S]

Nice authentic breast eagle or cap eagle on the case, can't figure out the size. But based on that, I'd like to see more.

[Pieter Verbruggen]

Nice authentic breast eagle or cap eagle on the case, can't figure out the size. But based on that, I'd like to see more.

....If it was a breast eagle it would be for "jumbo" sigars...it's a civil stick pin luft eagle...don't think you need further proof of this?
Pieter.

[IVAN]

I'm sorry but my opinion DKiG is not original ....

[meriksson]

First, im very skeptic to this groupings. I cant tell if the Dkig or rest shown is ok but i dont think that cigg case is ok, wy? Well you dont give that to a non smoker, not in any army now or then. Well we have some Germans here that im shure can say that the text is not ok, i dont trust it!. Pic´s like them shown are real, but those are not hard to get. IMO this set is only foney and made for the money.
Mikael

[jumo213]

The next pictures!

Thanks a lot for all of the comments about this grouping.

The exchange includes also other things than awards & documents.....in the range of $40.000.-

I´m sorry for that, but i`m too a "Luftwaffe hardware collector"

For this forum it`ll be of interest the group around Major Friedrich Lang from the "Immelmann" Stuka squadron, his uniform group
and edged weapons & a lot of other things around him and..... may be his knights cross & oak leaves & swords, but i`m not sure
about the last 3 parts.

Also the rest of the group from Karl Hager including the pic`s
by them you can see the "party" arround the 600th flight against the enemy from Karl Hager with Rudel.

The german describtion on the cigarette case is correct,
i`m for myself be a german.

The front of the cigarette case is Bernstein, not "only" a silver cigarette case, not all of the Goering things are with diamonds.

Another thing is from Werner Moelders....
It`s from the "Wiesbaden Airfield" from his "work" around
the "Jagdgeschwader".

What do you think about the real price for this?
Here are the pic`s on board.

But i`m able to send the next pic`s of the others at the end of next week because from tomorrow up to the next saturday next week, i`m on a business trip in portugal.

See you later and the best regards from Germany

jumo213

P.S. Is it possible to send a few pic`s at once??

[jumo213]

Moelders 2

Moelders 2

[jumo213]

Moelders 3

Moelders 3

[jumo213]

Moelders 4

Moelders 4

[Brian S]

....If it was a breast eagle it would be for "jumbo" sigars...it's a civil stick pin luft eagle...don't think you need further proof of this?
Pieter.

Thank you SO much Pieter. I'm so much more enlightened by this information...

[jumo213]

Moelders 5

One question,
all of my pic`s i`ve with 6 Megapixel including the highest
format (too high for the forum)
What can i do to send better pic`s?
My way now is only to shrink the jpeg`s + cut the wide of the pic`s
?????
Thanks for tips.
So, now its 02:30 in the morning in Germany
See you later in the next week
Bye

[tom hansen]

The DKiG looks very suspicious from the photos. The rivets, maker mark, date, wreath, and hinge plate are off for a zimmerman. I would think that a dodgy DKiG in the grouping would give one cause for concern over the other pieces. I don't know anything about pilot's badges or cigarette cases to comment on those pieces. However, what is the chance of having one fake in the grouping and all the other pieces are good?