Hello,I have been offered these Dks,seller stated that these are from the 50s',I would like to hear your opinions.(Personally I believe these are pretty much fakes)
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Backside. -
Close up.Comment
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The one unassembled looks fine to me - the construction looks quite ok to my eyes (any better pics, MM?). the assembled one is a repro.
Flak badge is not my field....Comment
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The unassembled one is also a bad fake!
BR
LombardComment
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Well, the pics are not HQ that is why it is rather hard to justify the unassembled piece is fake or not. My judgement was that it looks quite OK to me. That's it. Without better pictures it will be hard to say.Originally posted by Lombard
And what is more - When You say it is a bad fake, please state your arguments to support your opinion. I have learned here to be a little bit cautious before stating fake or not fake.
What I see lately is a true Fake-o-mania. Let us discuss the matter not only shoot 'Fake', 'Bad fake', 'Good fake' etc. without supporting such statements.
Thanks in advance.Last edited by Okrach; 09-29-2005, 06:04 AM.Comment
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The unassembled version seems to be a Souval restrike based on the catch. The other one looks like a SL product.Comment
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I would agree with Andy, typical Souval product and the other has the 1957 style pin. The seller is being truthful saying that these date from the 1950's onwards i.e. they are fakes.
Cheers, Ade.Comment
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Sorry Okrach!
I did not try to offend You in any way, I only made a (to) short answer.
BR
LombardComment
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I was NOT offended in any way... There was no need to be soryOriginally posted by Lombard
Just exchanging opinions
I still remember when I came here for the first time.. and I was simply amazed when people wrote 'bad', 'good'. Damn, I thought, how can I learn when I see only such a laconic information? Now I am member , I am not a new one anymore, I know a little about this hobby and I think, it would be better to EXPLAIN the statements - the others want to learn as well. That's it.
Every such a situation as with these DKGs is a brilliant opportunity to learn more about them. Let us use such chances
At the end let me give here an excellent example when some 'quicky' statements could have led to the huge misunderstanding. This thread is a good example why we need to be careful with our judgements - since as men we make mistakes...
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111169Comment
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The unassembled one IS a bad fake. If nothing else gives it away the reverse pin & catch do. THere is what seems to be the catch made from a single piece of sheet metal with a notch cut and bent upward to form the "hook" not a good sign. Aside from that the rest of the reverse is all wrong but this is one dead give away.
Just my observation from the blurry pix.
The other one on the reverse seems to carry with it many similarities with the later produced 57 DKIG &S's correct me if my eyes do not decieve me, but the Pin, Catch and rivits all look very 57 to me.
-ShaneComment
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Yeap You're right, both DKGs are fakes... Nevertheless I wiould see the closer pictures of this unassembled DK.. interesting piece to investigate...Comment
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Both DK,s are fakes , and the flak badge is an ok 1957 badge .Comment
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Thank you so much for the helps,I have Decline the offer from this seller.
Wish you all the best!Comment
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The DKiG's are fakesComment
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