'57 Ek1

[Darrell]

Hi guys ... this one looks .. well .... I dont know what to think ...

No doubts its 100% original, however, is this a real early piece?

[Darrell]

Rev

[Okrach]

It is the very first 57 EKI that has all details of the 39 type I have ever seen.

I would say it is a beautiful early production!!! it is in a wonderful condition!!! The detail is there!!

I got mine, but it has to be late version - nothing to compare to this one.

Nice and frosty cross

Maybe some more pictures of the construction details?

[esquiroz]

>I woouldn't say fisrst period. It is more from the last period. If you look at the upper arm you will find that there is the location where you have to affix the loop for the EKII. Las period one. Nice but not early.


regards
Carlos

[Okrach]

>I woouldn't say fisrst period. It is more from the last period. If you look at the upper arm you will find that there is the location where you have to affix the loop for the EKII. Las period one. Nice but not early.


regards
Carlos

Hi Carlos,

Could it be that the upper frame rim is adopted from the 39 type EKII? And this one is a one of a kind?

Let me repeat myself - the details of the frame as well as the interrior (very thin layer of the enamel, sharp shapes of the oak leaf, etc), I would rather support my opinion about the early production.

Some 57 crosses including EKI have been showed in this thread (here is the link):

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...0&page=1&pp=15

whatever You may seay about their quality it is not comparable to this one...

I am not saying I am 100% right I want only to be convinced

[Dave-B]

I agree with Carlos,the cross is a late one!

While it is better quality than the junk they produce now it is still inferior to the very early 57's that were made with wartime parts.

Dave

[esquiroz]

Helo agan,


no, is not an exception. The last crosses made by Steinhauer &Lück use to have this pattern of frame, with the position of the loop mared on them. Nevrtheless the finishing of this one is a nice one. The pin is not a flat one, typical for the early copies(from Deumer and from S&L) and there is no frosting(only in the very earlies!!!)
Sorry, but I continue thinking that it is a late one(may be 80-90)

Regards
Carlos
¿Any other opinion about that?

[Okrach]

I am not stubborn but such details.... Maybe I was deceived by them

[Grant Broadhurst]

Hi ,

Yes this is a bit of a mongrel , a nice well painted core but a late frame , S & L used the same frame for the EK1 & 2 the little circle is the fixing point for the ring of the EK2 . Usually on these late ones the black paint for the core goes up onto the frame very sloppily , maybe the trainee paint chimpanzee had a day off !

[Darrell]

I dont have any more pictures. It would be interesting to see the cross in hand.

[Philips]

Hello!
For me it's not really 1957 EK1 - on this kreuz not typical pin (not late and not early, and not mid).
I'm think it's handmade or fake. IMHO

[Darrell]

Hello!
For me it's not really 1957 EK1 - on this kreuz not typical pin (not late and not early, and not mid).
I'm think it's handmade or fake. IMHO

The core on this one appears normal ... it's just the frame etc. that just seems .. well .... different. I'm not saying one way or the other ... not something that I've seen before I should see if the seller has some more pictures ...