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**tom hansen** · 07-01-2005, 06:37 PM

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**tom hansen** · 07-01-2005, 09:31 PM

55 views and no opinions? Well, I will start in. I think this is as fake as a three dollar bill. The pin, hinge, and maker mark do not correspond to original four rivet deschlers. There are some later cupal deschlers with a catch like that. The rivets look close, but not good enough. The details of the date are difficult to blow up, but there does not appear to be a blunting of the apex of the "4" and the "9" is too oval. There is contact of the swaz with the wreath. the "patina" on the reverse is about as fake as it gets. Anybody see anything else?

**Yuri D.** · 07-01-2005, 09:37 PM

Tom,

I can't agree with you more on these point. You've just about nailed it down.

Yuri

**tom hansen** · 07-01-2005, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Yuri Desyatnik

Tom,

I can't agree with you more on these point. You've just about nailed it down.

Yuri

Thanks Yuri-

Another collector on another forum brought up a fact that I had not noticed. The cross is sitting in the case, yet the date is turned 90 degrees clockwise relative to its proper orientation, assuming a vertical 6 oclock to 12 oclock orientation of the pin

! These fakers are good for a laugh every once in a while.

**bnz. 42** · 07-01-2005, 10:40 PM

BTW, very nice copy

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**StefanK.** · 07-02-2005, 01:43 AM

well, i was wondering wether the case or the cross has a "little" mistake

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**Jim Baker** · 07-02-2005, 10:26 AM

Hi Tom,

I thought you put the cross in the case like that for a laugh.

Is it really positioned incorrectly in reference to the pin??

**tom hansen** · 07-02-2005, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Panzerman

Hi Tom,

I thought you put the cross in the case like that for a laugh.

Is it really positioned incorrectly in reference to the pin??

Jim- I do not know for sure. This was identified by another collector on the *** forum. I was focused on the cross and had not noticed the orientation of the date relative to the case. However, it does appear, given the cross is resting in the case, that the pin is oriented improperly. That, among other things, does not bode well for this piece.

**Jim Baker** · 07-02-2005, 10:37 AM

Oh Geez, I thought you were joking with us on this one. Well, the pictures are crap, but look at the positioning of the plates. They do not appear to line up well either. Junk in my opinion.

**bnz. 42** · 07-02-2005, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Panzerman

Well, the pictures are crap, but look at the positioning of the plates. They do not appear to line up well either. Junk in my opinion.

It is what I tried to show in the picture above.

**Jim Baker** · 07-02-2005, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by bnz. 42

It is what I tried to show in the picture above.

OOPS, yes I missed that. Way off even in these photos.

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