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    #106
    heres a 4 (the ek1) and my still debatable l/11
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      #107
      the backs
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        #108
        Hi Anthony, an interesting couple...
        have you got closer more detailed pics of them? The L/11 looks a strange one, and I have never seen a '4' marked one either!
        That's not neccessarily a bad thing though, but I would like to see closer shots if possible
        regards
        jon

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          #109
          i don't like th frist class spange...


          the second class is a nice original with added prongs

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            #110
            best i can do with my cam, i still need to figure it out
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              #111
              and you can see on the wing in the right corner the frosting comeing off
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                #112
                That is a known fake, Anthony.
                Cheers, Frank

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                  #113
                  i do respect your opinion but can you eloborate on how it is. it has alot of charcteristics s&l are known for like the frosting

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                    #114
                    Dear Anthony,

                    It is the well known "Raptor" fake. These fakes resemble clasps made by BH Mayer in design. With that pin and hinge, never original. Here is another example of this fake, which John T. posted here at some point in time:
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                    Cheers, Frank

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                      #115
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                        #116
                        Schickle (L/15) has a similar hinge and pin on its originals, but a different catch and slightly different obverse details.

                        Your pin with that catch in combination with that fake frosting are good giveaways of this fake.
                        Cheers, Frank

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                          #117
                          here is mine

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                          Strong wind-magic mist, to Asgard the Valkries fly
                          High overhead-they carry the dead, Where the blood of my enemies lies - MANOWAR - Hail to England

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                            #118
                            Hmmm have I got a problem ?

                            In view of Franks observations.... Have I got a problem piece here ?
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                              #119
                              Can you blow up the pics on that COA, David?
                              George

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                                #120
                                Originally posted by Dave Tourle
                                In view of Franks observations.... Have I got a problem piece here ?
                                Dave,
                                could you please post pictures of your item instead of COA?

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