Spange to EK_2

[all1knew]

Hello all,

What can you tell me about this one? Is it original at least?

Please let me know either way. Thank you.

William Kramer

[all1knew]

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[robert60446]

Hello all,

What can you tell me about this one? Is it original at least?

Please let me know either way. Thank you.

William Kramer

Looks like good an unmarked L/11 Wilhelm Deumer to me. But I’m still learning about these tricky spanges, so please wait for more experienced member’s opinions.

[Frank Heukemes]

An original Deumer made clasp!

[robert60446]

An original Deumer made clasp!

There you go William!

[all1knew]

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Well hello again,

Thank you for the fast reply guys.

Are all of these unmarked L/11's the same? I mean, do they all have the "9" in "1939" touching the top frame? What about the blobs of recessed metal around the eagle head? These were just some things that I have noticed. Also, what is an estimated value on these bad boys? Please let me know either way. Thank you.

William Kramer

[George Stimson]

Another thing I look for in Deumer Spange is the way the top wing feather (the long outside one) is slightly shorter than the one under it.

[all1knew]

yup

Hi,

Well great eyes here people. Tell me, how do you know it is unmarked, and don't forget, I would like an estimated value. Not for selling reasons, I just want to know what to pay for the damn thing. Thank you.

William Kramer

[robert60446]

Hi,

Well great eyes here people. Tell me, how do you know it is unmarked, and don't forget, I would like an estimated value. Not for selling reasons, I just want to know what to pay for the damn thing. Thank you.

William Kramer

Value: from 125.00 euro to 225.00 euro. Depends where you buying from and spange condition...<o =""></o>

[all1knew]

New image

Hello all,

Well thanks to you all, I bought the bird. And here she is........

Bill

[Flemming]

Nice looking bird

I love them

Best regards,
Flemming

[all1knew]

Deumer

Hello again,

How did you all know that it was unmarked before the badge was off the ribbon?

How do you tell a marked version from an unmarked version just from the obverse?

Please let me know either way. Thanks again.

William Kramer

[tinmantis]

Hi William
I don't know any way you can tell if it's unmarked from the front only
and
I've often wondered myself about the top of the '9' touching the edge on L/11s. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. IMO it's the die decaying, as the pebbling matches on both versions. I've seen one with just a slight bit touching, alot, and none. As there are SO many L/11s around, it makes sense to me that the die was very well used!
lovely spange, $140-170?
regards
jon

[all1knew]

Jon,

So is the 9 touching on only the unmarked examples?

Bill

[tinmantis]

as far as I can see, marked or unmarked doesn't seem to matter...
but that's raised an interesting point for me, are unmarked examples of later production? and/or early? or of no consequence?
regards
jon