Wideframe EKII - I have my doubts ...

[hagwalther]

Fellow members,

I picked this up off the E-Stand this week and I'm not too sure on it.

Dimensions are 45mm wide and 44.8 mm high.

Note the unequal thickness of the outside edge of the 9 and 3 o'clock frames.

The makers mark total throws me. I can't make it out but I'm sure it doesn't say '24' - were there other makers?

No signs of acorns either on the ribbon ring or ribbon ring attachment.

Core is magnetic.

Comments please.

[hagwalther]

... and the back.

[hagwalther]

Makers mark ...

[Peter Wiking]

Reminds me about this cross i have in my fake folder. It is marked 16. Note how the frame is on top of the 9 in 1939.

[Peter Wiking]

Note the low quality of the frame.

[hagwalther]

Thanks Peter,

Also, the 2 o'clock arm of my Swaz is slightly covered by the frame.

Saying that though, my swaz is quite crisp with sharp, straight edges.

[Peter Wiking]

Saying that though, my swaz is quite crisp with sharp, straight edges.

Yes i noted that as well. Improved fake or differnt and original cross ?
I have bad feelings about your cross. More facts and opinions is needed.

Cheers.
Peter

[eindecker2]

Here is a shot of my '24' - strangely it has a '0' also stamped on the ring as well - I see '024' on yours - just my observations.

[meriksson]

Hagwalter that is a nice normal 24 whit the "dot" , or it can be a acorn as extra mark at the end off the maker mark. Most times that 24 are very hard to figure out as it´s mostly part off the the nr´s on the ring. The one you show do have been buffed hard as most i have are almost black on the frames, that say a high silver contend.
Dont forgett you have at least 3 more to get from that 24 maker, the acorn, the klovs and the WB as extra marks.
Mikael

[eindecker2]

though it darn near looks like it in the photo - I had to go back and check - the '9'in 1939 is Not under the frame but is rather just hugging the edge - the tip of the '1' is also snug against the inner protion of the frame. The swas is also of the crisp variety. Here is a photo of the reverse

[hagwalther]

Thanks Guys,

Keep the comments coming.

I have to go off-line now as my daughter needs the computer to do her home work.

Regards ...

[meriksson]

Dont forgett that "dot", acorn or clovs can be on the small ring also. One other to tell a 24 the dates on the core is low and most times the core is very matt black even if the ek is used.
Mikael