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    #1

    Spanish cross

    Hello, what do you think on this?

    Thanks in advanced
    Mike
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    #2
    Never seen a pin like that before. Got pics without blankouts?

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      #3
      Hello, I have not clean pics. Only these two, The pin is a replacement but the cross can be a Deumer?

      regards
      Mike
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        #4
        Yes

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          #5
          thanks

          Originally posted by Brian S View Post
          Yes

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            #6
            The cross is a genuine 835 award piece that is attributed to Deumer.
            It rather had a hard life, and like Brian mentioned, the pin is a replacement for sure.

            Jelle

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              #7
              The 835 appear made by machine tool and not punched; look at 8 and the font appear so modern for me.

              Nobody have a Original 835 deumer to compare with this one ?
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                #8
                A valid point, something to think about. It is indeed suspicious.
                Would love to see additional pictures of the cross that started this thread.
                On the other hand, the cross shows little die flaws that are also seen on original crosses. The obverse detail is also not that good… which can be explained by the wear it shows. Surely hq pics are needed.

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