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    EKI cardboard carton for review -- Mayer, Pforzheim

    Hello All,

    Would appreciate opinions on this cardboard outer carton, for the Iron Cross First Class. I found one other thread on a similar carton:

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=865842


    The printing on the carton in my possession looks slightly thicker than printer on the carton deemed to be a modern reproduction. What say you?

    Thanks in advance.
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            Hi Douglas,

            Your carton looks fine to me...but so does the other one you referenced via earlier link. I'm no 'packaging expert' by any stretch of the imagination, but since so few of these cartons were regarded highly enough to retain, there haven't been a lot to compare and to refer to! Indeed, even the presentation cases of most badges and medals have apparently been discarded long ago, otherwise most medals and awards would be offered today in their original cases...and we know that simply isn't true.

            I guess it just seems unlikely to me that someone today would go to the trouble and the expense of creating an innocuous article such as a packing/shipping carton...! But perhaps that's just me!

            Br. James

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              Thanks, Br. James. I'd like to hear some thoughts as well.

              What I will say, is that in other referenced thread, the interior of the carton struck me as being nothing my interior (which I forgot to take a good picture of, not realizing that might be the tip-off.). But I see differences in the lettering and thickness of the lettering on my example posted here, vs. the other example.

              Look at the "B.", the "H.", and the "P" for example, in the B.H. Mayer, Pforzheim.

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                #8
                Hi Douglas,

                Yes, I see those differences, too, plus the fact that the linked-to carton example has a reference or other number code printed onto one of the folds -- "III/0070" -- but what do those differences really represent? If the Mayer firm needed to order additional cartons over the span of a few years, that would be reason enough for all the lettering style differences between the two examples...no? It may be a mistake to assume that all of the cartons produced for this EKI award were made at the same time, or even by the same carton-fabricating company.

                Just my opinion, of course! Cheers,

                Br. James

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                  My example actually has a reference number as well (albeit in a slightly different location).

                  But good comments. And I don't have a good answer. I tried to look through other posts regarding EK cardboard boxes, but didn't have muck luck finding other examples. I'd like to understand further why the carton in the link is deemed fake, and hopefully hear other opinions on this particular carton. In my mind, the cardboard "stock" seems to be spot on to vintage 30's or early 40's cardboard.
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                      Any comments from packets or box "specialists?"

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                        The 'Mayer' EK1 carton has been discussed in this forum many times over the years.

                        If your search this forum for Mayer carton there are lots of examples and theories on what is a good carton and what is a bad one.

                        I recall its all about the 'K' in Kreuz on the front of the carton.

                        If there is a gap between the down stroke of the K and the < its regarded as a bad carton. No gap, it's a good one!!

                        Allan
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                          Thank you, Allan. I must have done a very narrow search, because I was only coming up with the one thread that I previously referenced, which didn't give any explanation per se. Cheers!

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