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    #1

    Halbetui for EK?

    Hi case fans,

    I have just a quick question to which I can't seem to find an answer on the forum.

    1. Re the so-called "Halbetui," the late-war case without a metal hinge, for the EK1: Do these exist LDO-stamped, black-material for cross bed, without EK imprint on top but properly used for an EK?

    I'm wondering if this one is possibly correct for an EK1, or maybe a retasked WB case? And this does look like a hinge-less case, yes? This item is for sale and in not in-hand.

    Thank you,
    Trevor
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    Best regards,
    Streptile

    Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)
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    Attached Files
    Best regards,
    Streptile

    Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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      #3
      EK1 are found in this type of case.

      I think that because there is no imprint of an EK on top of the Halbetui it suggests that it could be used for other awards too, i.e wound badges.

      Allan
      Looking for information on RKT KARL HUBER
      Stoßtruppführer AufKlAbt 20 (mot.)

      'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it'

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        #4
        hey
        i have also an EK1 in a case of same type,the cross matcing not the stamp the cross = mm 55 and the case = L/53.

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          #5
          Thanks for the replies. A question...

          I've searched the forums but only managed to confuse myself further. What I'm trying to discover is:

          Does there exist a Halbetui with no maker's mark* anywhere, no LDO mark inside, with EK imprint on the lid?

          I would really appreciate if someone posted an example of one of these, if they do indeed exist...

          Thanks again,
          Trevor


          * I've seen a few Halbetuis marked for Deumer in my WAF searches, some marked inside and at least two examples marked with an incuse stamp on the outside bottom of the case.
          Best regards,
          Streptile

          Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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            #6
            No one knows a case like this? Oh well.
            Thank you Gerner and Allan.
            Trevor
            Best regards,
            Streptile

            Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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              #7
              I have checked my Halbetui, I have 12, and all have the LDO logo inside the top of the case.

              I have no Halbetui without the LDO logo.

              I hope this helps.

              Allan
              Looking for information on RKT KARL HUBER
              Stoßtruppführer AufKlAbt 20 (mot.)

              'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it'

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                #8
                I have not yet seen (except yours) a LDO Halbetui that does not have the LDO mark and the LDO number. That said, your case looks original. Maybe the Cod father (sorry God Father ) Marcus has something to add?

                Mike

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Allan Pilch View Post
                  EK1 are found in this type of case.

                  I think that because there is no imprint of an EK on top of the Halbetui it suggests that it could be used for other awards too, i.e wound badges.

                  Allan

                  No LDO case should have a depiction of an award on it. As indeed many (not all) LDO cases could cater for other awards with the measured option of sliding in another accommodating base. However, as we are all aware of the 621 recess/base could receive the Ost Volk, KVK1 and EK1.......also the odd Luft award in addition ; )

                  You find these very cases in normally two outer covering patterns and the bases are made by D&B and also there are those that have the KB **** punch recess code, too.

                  Now as to what awards they belong to varies and I believe this a purposeful 'generic' pattern retail case. Which could house the aforementioned and indeed as Al incites the wound badges too.

                  Why the need for such? Well, my thoughts are this: Instead of numerous sizes and shapes for a multitude of awards why not kill several birds with one stone, so to speak. These stem from a latter to late period in the war and to cut a long story short, a cost effective and ease of production substitute.

                  I hope that adds some food for thought. Sorry I'm at work and I have no notes or files to elaborate really at this moment in time.


                  Kr


                  Marcus

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                    #10
                    ........Trevor I bloody forget to mention, regarding the base colour as convention goes the black base would suit the KVK1 & Ost Volk, the white base of course the EK1 and silver/gold wound badges.

                    The opposite seems to preside when the KVK and EK are screw backs.


                    Imprints on these very lid liners and no makers marks in addition? Sure, you can find them with no makers LDO (L/**) marks, no problem there at all.

                    And the same can be said of imprints as well, I wouldn't be concerned over an impression of the award or not in such cases, no, not in the slightest.

                    As for no LDO mark, well I'd have to look at the case first........where is it?


                    M

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                      #11
                      Thanks for this information, Marcus. I just checked up on this thread after some time away from the case forum.

                      In answer to your question, I never did get the case I was describing. But I am interested, for some reason, in these cases without hinges.

                      Thanks again for the information. I am about to post another hinge-less case for opinions that I hope you will weigh in on.

                      Best,
                      Best regards,
                      Streptile

                      Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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