question on packets

[leigh]

Hello All,

Relative new comer to the forum, so if this has been asked before i'll take the flak for not searching hard enough. But in my defence a search revealed nothing and after page 5 searching every thread here decided to ask.

Question,

Is it known if the medal producers produced there own packets or was this task sub contracted out.

Not just the packets, box's and cartons also.

Any info greatly recieved

Leigh

[Thomas H]

Hi Leigh,

Good question I would also like to know more about the way producers got there cases and packets.

At this point in time, I think that most cases/packets/******252;berkarton's where produced by someone else, and not the medal producer itself. Allot of common cases packets all look the same. The EKI case has most of the time the same number under need the inlay, this wouldn't have been so if every maker made his own case I expect. The EKI carton "1940" can be found with different makers and the same lettering. If 1940 is a mistake, why did they all make that mistake? The best example is the packet for the EKII ribbon, that packet has the name of the ribbon producer and the name of the packet maker on the back.

Top is ribbon maker and bottom is packet manufacturer.

Cheers, Thomas

[Thomas H]

Something else that just came to my mind. Maybe the packets/cases that any "rare" (hate this word) were produced buy the medal producer itself, or ordered in small numbers just around the corner of the producer. I would say that these would be from the early days, before PKZ and LDO involvement.

Cheers, Thomas

[leigh]

Thomas,

Cheers Thomas, good theory on the" lesser spotted pieces".

anyone else any ideas

regards


Leigh

[MH184]

To my knoweldge there has never anything to even suggest award makers made the cases/packets - they didn't truth be known, it was out sourced, local and nationally.


Thomas, Mr Pepper (correction: NOT Mr Pepper it was Behrens) was a very vary large producer of paper wares, alot of packets were made by this comany paper and wax and 'outer coverings' for cases, cardboard cases too etc, even in the early 1930's.

[Thomas H]

Thomas, Mr Pepper was a very vary large producer of paper wares, alot of packets were made by this comany paper and wax and 'outer coverings' for cases, cardboard cases too etc, even in the early 1930's.

Thanks Marcus, I didn't know that

Cheers, Thomas

[MH184]

Damn not Pepper mate, thats the ribbon maker......it was late last night - Behrens

[Thomas H]

Damn not Pepper mate, thats the ribbon maker......it was late last night - Behrens

is it Herr Dr Pepper?

The good old Behrens, I only know this firm from the Ribbon packet and the very small packet you found in Stuttgart 2006.

Pepper made the ribbon? Then who is Carl Knoblauch? I thought that he made the Ribbon's or are there more ribbon makers?

Cheers, Thomas

[MH184]

It's of course 'garlic' not pepper, I'm not thinking straight mate (I blame my wife )