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    #16
    A great set but the price is out of reach!!
    Mental....

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      #17
      Here's a pic from the auction of him wearing his 57 KC
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        #18
        Totally nuts IMO... each to his own but this certainly is a bit crazy. Just for itself the cross is a rather unattractive C-frame.
        I bought an entire post war LW Pilot grouping last year which included 2x B-frames RK‘s, S&L DKiG and wartime cased pilots badge for less than that.

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          #19
          Totally nuts IMO... each to his own but this certainly is a bit crazy. Just for itself the cross is a rather unattractive C-frame.
          I bought an entire named LW Pilot grouping last year which included 2x B-frame RK‘s, S&L DKiG and wartime cased pilots badge for less than that.

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            #20
            Originally posted by bobgee526 View Post
            WOW! Lt Vogerel had quite a WWII career! Air Gunner then Pilot then Para winning a KC. I hope the group was re-united though at a very expensive cost. Lots of documents but none related to the KC.
            I guess someone got an outrageous bidding frenzy over a group to be reunited. Just check the price his 1939 EK I and EKII reached. Monopoly money.

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              #21
              Seems he may never have received his original RK -

              Leutnant Georg Vögerl (1920-2010) served as a highly decorated Air Gunner and Pilot involved in the battle of Malta before he was moved to Fallschirmjäger-Regiment 26 in 1945 due to the lack of aircrafts. He was awarded the Knight’s Cross on 28.3.1945 for bravery during the battle of Stettin.
              As a Air Gunner, he was awarded the German Cross in gold on 17.10.1943 and the Luftwaffe Honor Goblet on 18.9.1942 serving with Kampfgruppe 606 which was later converted to I./K.G.77. His pilot was later Knight's Cross winner Oberfeldwebel Josef Grewe.
              Vögerl served in the aircraft which dropped a bomb over the "Rotunda Santa Marija Assunta" church at Mosta on 9.4.1942 during the Malta Campaign. Luckily, it has not detonated which is known as the "Malta miracle". He met up with British veterans in 2004 on Malta which is shown on a video part of this offer. Vögerl was filmed speaking about this memories on this campaign.

              Please see other items to Vögerl at auction.

              An Iron Cross 2nd Class which Vögerl had worn instead a Knight's Cross with period time converted ribbon. Due to the late awarding date of his Knight's Cross he was probably never given a correct Knight's Cross.

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                #22
                Query 're this kc

                There is a picture of this guy at the thread link below (not one already in this thread), and in it he appears to be wearing a first core 57 KC, which is quite different to that shown on the first page of this thread. Thoughts?
                Mac

                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...47386&page=241

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by 109 View Post
                  There is a picture of this guy at the thread link below (not one already in this thread), and in it he appears to be wearing a first core 57 KC, which is quite different to that shown on the first page of this thread. Thoughts?
                  Mac

                  http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...47386&page=241
                  No, that's still a 2nd pattern core I believe
                  Leutnant%20Georg%20Vögerl.jpg
                  sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nigel N View Post
                    No, that's still a 2nd pattern core I believe
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                    Yes, I agree with you Nigel, 2nd pattern core. Tom

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Tom B View Post
                      Yes, I agree with you Nigel, 2nd pattern core. Tom
                      I'll leave it to the experts, then!
                      Mac

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