para badge Assmann with swastika

[pattex]

Hello,
I'm a little bit confused.

In the past we saw some 57er badges marked with an "A" for Assmann.

Now I found a paratrooper badge with identical setup but with swastika .
- identical hingeblock
- identical catch
- identical pin
- identical marker mark

Confusing

Did Assmann make swastika pieces after the war?

Is this (and all the other) really an Assmann piece?

best regards
Pattex

[pattex]

catch and hingeblock

[Nigel N]

Hi Pattex!
Well, I can certainly say that all the previously shown 57ers with the Assmann mark are genuine Assmann pieces!!
This one......mmmmmmmmmmmm????
Is it possible for you to show us a closeup of the MM and the rivets???
-Nigel

[pattex]

Hi Nigel,
here are the closeups of MM and rivets.

The problem is - all Assmann 57er badges have some typical features - this badge is identical .

best regards
Pattex

[Nigel N]

Well, the "spun" rivets, with a slightly bevelled edge are correct for Assmann, that combined with the postwar hardware, make it look like this is a postwar copy by Assmann!
Should we be surprised?? Maybe not.....Souval did it, S&L did it etc
-Nigel

[pattex]

Well, the "spun" rivets, with a slightly bevelled edge are correct for Assmann, that combined with the postwar hardware, make it look like this is a postwar copy by Assmann!
Should we be surprised?? Maybe not.....Souval did it, S&L did it etc
-Nigel

Hi Nigel,
you're absolutely right, but...

... I never saw an Assmann piece with the typical postwar features with a swastika .

best regards
Pattex

[Nigel N]

Its the first one I see too!!!
-Nigel

[pattex]

Its the first one I see too!!!
-Nigel

Thank you Nigel, perhaps somebody else?

Every answer is welcome !

best regards
Pattex

[Borzadow]

Confusing one indeed...

This badge is casted for sure. Only pin and hingleblock are not (catch is strange looking).
"A" mark is not stamped (or even "cuted out") but also came from a casting form.

IMHO it is a postwar casted copy of Assmann wartime badge, but not made by Assmann (I think he would try better ?).

[pattex]

Confusing one indeed...

This badge is casted for sure. Only pin and hingleblock are not (catch is strange looking).
"A" mark is not stamped (or even "cuted out") but also came from a casting form.

IMHO it is a postwar casted copy of Assmann wartime badge, but not made by Assmann (I think he would try better ?).

Hello Borzadow,
it is not a copy of an Assmann wartime badge, because Assmann wartime paratrooper badges looks different .

For sure it is a postwar copy.

But all the other 57er badges that we called as Assmann pieces have the same setup!

From my perspective this piece was made by the same maker - but is this Assmann?

best regards
Pattex

[Nigel N]

Patryk thought it looked cast?
@ Pattex....Do you think it is a cast piece, or a die struck piece, if it is cast, then I don't believe it can be a genuine Assmann, if die struck, then...........
-Nigel

[Matthieu]

Could be an St&L eagle with swastika which got an "A" stamp to fool ?
I certainly don't like this particular FJ badge .... sorry.

[Borzadow]

It's casted for sure. We don't need a microscope here, sorry.