German Cross in Silver real or copy ?

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Okay Ladys and here is for me the tricky one !! i never saw that before and i`m not sure what the f… it is. I will tell you what i see there and please tell me what you see there.
It is a really good, heavy and detailed piece, the date and the lines under the dates reminds me to the Deumer crosses.
The hingebock is also very complex design and i would say closed.
The catch reminds me a bit to a heavy Zimmermann catch and the needle is a bit a S&L style.
The Stardust board fits not exact to the back plate but it is detailed. Do you see the small dents at the end of the cross arms ? never see that before.
So what it is ? a simple copy ? a high quality copy ? a quite rare maker of 57 items ?
Greeting
Olli

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[Steve 5]

Poor quality repro IMO, soft casting look to the edges, unknown hardware for a 57er, poorly painted ring..............
Prost ! Steve.

[Alex W.]

I agree with Steve, a very poor made modern piece.

Best regards,
Alex

[Nigel N]

Hi Olli! I think I also have to agree with the guys, that this is most likely a later made repro piece.
It is interesting in many ways though, as some of the parts seem better made, with crisper details, while other parts appear soft in detail and possibly cast, the central KVK being a good example.
As already said, the hardware is not known from any 57 maker, different parts look a little like parts from several different makers, but non seem quite right, and in this combination.......not good IMO.
I am not familiar with TR fakes of the DKiS or DKiG, but its possible I think, that this started out as one of those, and someone maybe saw an opportunity to pass it off as a rare 57er, by swapping swaz with KVK???
-Nigel

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Okay guy`s and thanks for your answers/opinion. So it is a fake and i have no problem with that info.
I was wondering about the high quality if you look at silver ring and the dates.
Thanks and Greeting
Olli