KC group from Karl Hausmann

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Well done Patrick. That is something to hold on to. Congrats.

Regards,
Rudy

[Nigel N]

Outstanding Group Patrick, and unique in the specially made case!!!!
All nice early pieces too, displayed superbly in the case, its also good to have the paperwork, and to know so much of the history of the man!
Thanks also for taking the time to translate some of it for us, and as already said, its good to know this group has gone to a good home, and stays in the 57 family, as does the KVK RK which Steve won!!
Maybe some more pieces from the auction will be shown? It was one of the best sales of 57ers for a while!!
Congrats Patrick, and thanks for showing it here!!!!!!!!!!
-Nigel

[Karsten S]

Really well done

This is very interesting to see that the EK2+EK1 are both very early pieces, making it that the RK is a Deumer as well :smoking:

Second thing is that it does not have the flaws on the frame, even thus it is quite obvious that it has the same black coating and overall finish like the 2 other crosses.

So no flaws on the frame, but still a very early produced RK....

Patrick allow me to show my RK, and hope you don´t mind, but I would like to try and make a point here.
Mine was by some dismissed as a later RK, because of the lacking of all the typical St&L flaws, even though it shows the all over signs of quality and wear that would be hard to add a RK that supposedly should be a late piece.
It always wondered me, and Harrier and I have always like it, and I have hold on to it in my own collection until now. Even buying it back, after regretting selling it (thanks Rudy )

So are we indeed looking at a Deumer RK in Patrick´s Group, as well as mine? Difference with mine and Patrick is that the black coating on Patricks is more thick, so maybe not made in the same period?

Patrick, is there a dent at 3 o´clock on the eye holding the suspension ring?

KR

Karsten

[Patrick08/15]

First I have to thank for your nice comments

I take new pictures of the KC . With flashlight and without.

@Karsten there is no dent

[Patrick08/15]

without

[Patrick08/15]

with flashlight....

[Seewolf]

Yeehaa, finally a RK grouping for Patrick

Glad you could get that one, i know how long you were waiting for such one.

And then from a scarce unit like Grossdeutschland, not bad

Wonderful awards, a great bunch of paperwork, all information that you nedd.

For sure the highlight in your ever growing collection. Well done my friend

[George L]

Could be more likely a 1st pattern core with an S&L "C" type frame.

Second thing is that it does not have the flaws on the frame, even thus it is quite obvious that it has the same black coating and overall finish like the 2 other crosses.

So no flaws on the frame, but still a very early produced RK....

Patrick allow me to show my RK, and hope you don´t mind, but I would like to try and make a point here.
Mine was by some dismissed as a later RK, because of the lacking of all the typical St&L flaws, even though it shows the all over signs of quality and wear that would be hard to add a RK that supposedly should be a late piece.
It always wondered me, and Harrier and I have always like it, and I have hold on to it in my own collection until now. Even buying it back, after regretting selling it (thanks Rudy )

So are we indeed looking at a Deumer RK in Patrick´s Group, as well as mine? Difference with mine and Patrick is that the black coating on Patricks is more thick, so maybe not made in the same period?

Patrick, is there a dent at 3 o´clock on the eye holding the suspension ring?

KR

Karsten

[Nigel N]

Hi Karsten!
I think the RK from Patrick's group is an S&L 1st pattern core in a "C" frame, you can see the bleed flaw on the 9 o'clock arm......
DSCF1638.JPG
The one you show, is i think a similar RK, but with a later frame, either a tidied up version of the "C", or maybe even an early "D"?
If you compare the beading, especially around the inner corners with a Deumer/Schickle, i don't think they are a match?? see what you think......
Deumer............
57%2520Otto%2520Schickle%2520RK%2520Front.jpg

-Nigel

[Tony T-S]

Not sure what the answer is, but it sure is wonderful just looking at the close ups of these RKs.

[Unfront]

That is a very nice RK and an even better RK group. Does not get much better than that! Congrats!!

[Patrick08/15]

First I will thank the other guys for the nice comments.

Today I get the signed photo from Hausmann. For me the perfect piece to round out the group.

[Nigel N]

Hi Patrick!
Very nice photo!! That really is the cherry on the cake, and finishes the grouping off nicely!
Not all attributed groups have any photo's of the vet, but I think it makes it so much better to have a face to go with the name!!!
-Nigel

[Patrick08/15]

I hope someday to add a Bundeswehr photo of him to this group.
But at my search in the internet I don´t find any photo from his time at the BW.