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    #61
    Now here's some shots of a DKiG that I am led to believe may be from S&L, but is a later made piece (painted red ring under the wreath) using a different wreath to their earlier offerings. As an aside and observation, for a later made, painted ring version of the new form DK, the overall quality isn't too bad.

    First up, a front view.

    Regards
    David
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      #62
      Rear of DKiG
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        #63
        Side view of DKiG

        The side view looks very, very similar to the DKiS. However, the rivets are different as are the wreaths.
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          #64
          Originally posted by mbizy View Post
          Hey Geo,

          Can you supply a few scans from the 57er book you mention? I'd love to see it.

          Thanks,
          Ditto that

          Regards
          David

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            #65
            Originally posted by George L View Post
            Rudiger, yes, that group pic is the exact pic on the book.
            Thanks George, that makes me a little bit proud

            But i compared the wreath of my and Mike´s DK with wartime ones and IMO the wreath is typical Godet and not Deschler. The"1941" on the Deschler wreath is not identical.
            What are the points that makes it a Deschler
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              #66
              Hi guys, some fantastic DK's posted in this thread, but i'm getting a little confused (it does'nt take much)
              Just sticking with Mikes DKiG for a moment, it was thought this was a Godet, but Thomas suggested it was a Deschler, which seemed to be cofirmed by George, and Dietrichs book! But Rudiger, and i think David, still feel its more like a Godet........so is the jury still out on this one???huh.gif
              sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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                #67
                Originally posted by knockoffnigel View Post
                Just sticking with Mikes DKiG for a moment, it was thought this was a Godet, but Thomas suggested it was a Deschler, which seemed to be cofirmed by George, and Dietrichs book! But Rudiger, and i think David, still feel its more like a Godet........so is the jury still out on this one???[ATTACH]1327096[/ATTACH]
                Ha ha, you´re not alone with this
                But we´re going to work it out

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by knockoffnigel View Post
                  Hi guys, some fantastic DK's posted in this thread, but i'm getting a little confused (it does'nt take much)
                  Hear Hear (or is it here here?)

                  Very interesting this discussion but a bit confusing.
                  There are a lot of very nice crosses shown (lovely cross you got there Rüdiger first time i see this type) but there is no line in the discussion.
                  You reference to crosses but half the time i can't always follow.

                  Maybe it is just me and is the long workweek in play...

                  Best regards

                  stijn

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                    #69
                    It´s a little bit running out of the line...

                    The question is "what is the maker of my and Mike´s cross"

                    I and Mike think/would say Godet.

                    George, Thomas and Dietrich say Deschler

                    David is more to Godet and thinks his silver cross is a Deschler

                    Luud is more to S&L at David´s cross

                    We´re looking for the maker of:
                    - My and Mike´s cross (same maker)
                    - David´s cross

                    Better to understand

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Seewolf View Post
                      Better to understand
                      Yes indeed.
                      Thank you very much for the recap, Rüdiger.
                      Now i can follow again. Unfortunately i can't add new elements to this discussion. But i'm sure learning a lot.

                      Best regards

                      stijn

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                        #71
                        One other note to add is the Patzwall reference on DK's also stated that a DK posted here was from Deschler, too. Being that the Patzwall book was out before, it's possible Dietrich used that as a source, or he got it another way.

                        PS this should be post #1500 for ol' G!

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                          #72
                          Thanks George, for your reply. Just thought this thread is sleeping in
                          Which book from Patzwall is it?


                          Congrats to 1500 postings....now go on to the 2000

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by George L View Post
                            One other note to add is the Patzwall reference on DK's also stated that a DK posted here was from Deschler, too. Being that the Patzwall book was out before, it's possible Dietrich used that as a source, or he got it another way.
                            Hello

                            When you say a DK posted here was from Deschler, do you mean one of the DKs in this thread or one in a book? If one in this thread could you say which one please.

                            Many thanks.

                            Regards
                            David

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                              #74
                              Rudiger, it's titled 'Das Deutsche Kreuz 1941-1945' vol 1 by Klaus Patzwall and Veit Scherzer. With Dietrich's book now out, I'd pass on it unless you can get it for dirt cheap, though.

                              David, yes one in this thread from Mike is like one I own, and that same style wreath is pictured on one in the book above.

                              Clear as mud?

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                                #75
                                I´ve less time the last days....but i compared wartime Godet´s and Deschler´s with our 57 DK´s (Wreath, rivets, hardware). I´ll post pics later here. I found out that the rivets look like Deschler, the wreath like Godet and the hardware could be Deschler OR Godet.
                                As i wrote above, pics will come later here so that everyone here can make his own thoughts about it.

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