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Yes, "very actively"...in their own way. Monthly meetings, well attended.
Annual trips to Latvia, Hungary, Holland....Large Christmas reunion, Attendence of the Fallschirmjäger, U-Bootfahrer reunions....
For their age "very active" in my opinion.
I really do not know what is so funny about it.Last edited by markus; 07-15-2008, 06:44 PM.Comment
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1. SS Pz.-Korps
The 1st SS-Pz.Korps was also active. I cannot judge nowadays since I left Germany, but yes "very active"!
Here my old membeship pass...Last edited by markus; 07-15-2008, 06:45 PM.Comment
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Hi,
markus:
"Yes, "very actively"
"I really do not know what is so funny about it."
That is correct, it is not funny, it is frightening
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Sorry Peter, it is not direct the subject, but indirect, relating to so many Nazis with the funeral.
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Hi,
Gran Sasso,
In post 83 who is the big guy facing the camera i ask because iv'e met him i think?
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Interesting. So do many people do cremation then? I couldn't imagine somebody spending all this money on burying a loved one only to have them exhumed in a few years.Originally posted by mbberlin View Post
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I was born in a prussian family with a good name and with a lot of former high ranked and highly decorated officers with a history back to Friedrich Wilhelm I - the "von Bülow" family and the "von Obstfelder" family, and my godfather (Patenonkel) and later my most important mentor was a well known and famous member of the circle around 20. Juli 1944.: Ludwig von Hammerstein-Equord.Originally posted by markus
A lot of them were active part of the history Third Reich, some were pre 1945 real strong nazis, some not. But all of them had finally one: Brain, decorousness and hindsight.
For me it was never neccesary to join a small club full of stupid Neonazis with silly phantasies to get in touch with history.
I've joined FFL, 2eme REP in 1980 - 18 y.o. - and had two heavy combat experiencec in Tschad and Libanon. Today I'm absolutely not proud about this.
I know exactly, what I'm talking about.
Believe it or not.Last edited by mbberlin; 07-16-2008, 09:13 AM.Comment
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Keep the subject or i have to close the thread. Last warning!
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Great pix!
Hello, i am new in forum and very surprised about such amazing pics.
Does anyone have more after-war-pics showing Wilhelm Bittrich and Joachim Peiper?
Would be very nice.Comment
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Hello all .
Very nice and rare pics . Interesting thread . On the Sepp funeral pics , taken 20 yars after war , i see only " aged" men , with white-hairs ( sorry , my English-speaking " is poor ) , and not a lot of 40years-old men ( about 20 years during the war ) . Are most of youngs waffen soldiers dead at the end of the war in desespérate fightings or are just aged and expérimented or high-ranked officers who survived the end of war ?
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Hi TYZ341,
it could be that the younger soldiers were still able to recognise that they had served a criminal unjudicial system and they have clearly dissociated themselves from it!
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Very interesting. Of course I am not German and I do not know the "felling" of the German people about that, so nice to know all those theories.Originally posted by speedytop View Post
But, for example. A few weeks ago I asked a German friend to bring a RK from Germany to me. When I asked I could see his "shocking" face. But I think not because of the request but because he never expected someone like me to be interested in that time of the Geman history and DECORATIONS.
When he came back he just gave it to me without any comments. Now, I wonder if he thinks that I AM A NAZI!!!! I really hope not. I like the German football team, I like the German National Anthem, I like the German atletics uniforme, I like the Iron Cross, and I like German women, BUT I REALLY BELIEVE THAT I DO NOT LIKE NAZIS AND I AM NOT A NAZI.
Then, if I were during the time of that funeral I may go there just out of couriosity to see the vet soldiers and their decorations, but to be in one of those pictures would not make me a NAZI. I am not defending them or trying to make this a "polemic." It is just that I found interesting what you wrote.
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Criminals
Its understandable that many of us have great admiration for the german army and in particular for the SS due to their military achivments but lets not forget that the SS was catalogued as a criminal organization.Most of the guys were simply criminals, political fanatics that obey blindly orders from a mad man without questioning the moral rectitude of their actions.These guys wiped out entire cities with women and children included and that can not be catalogued as an act of valor or of any military achivement they are simply crimes against humanity.why did they do it??because they thought they would win the war and they would not be judge later on.Comment
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You are correct. The men in those funeral photos are those that knew Sepp in person from the pre-war years and early campain years. Sepp is supposed to have gone through a list of the men in his "LAH" division. This was in 1943 and Sepp could see that only 40 men, from the original strength of 20 000 men, were still standing. All had been killed, badly wounded or taken prisoner.Originally posted by TYZ341 View PostHello all .
Very nice and rare pics . Interesting thread . On the Sepp funeral pics , taken 20 yars after war , i see only " aged" men , with white-hairs ( sorry , my English-speaking " is poor ) , and not a lot of 40years-old men ( about 20 years during the war ) . Are most of youngs waffen soldiers dead at the end of the war in desespérate fightings or are just aged and expérimented or high-ranked officers who survived the end of war ?
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TYZ341
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