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    S&L KC with Oaks and Swords, EK I & DK Gold

    I like to show these S&L 1957 "Crosses". I'm curious what you think

    KC, DKIG & EK I (1).jpg

    KC, DKIG & EK I (2).jpg

    KC, DKIG & EK I (5).jpg

    KC, DKIG & EK I (4).jpg

    KC, DKIG & EK I (3).jpg

    KC, DKIG & EK I (7).jpg

    KC, DKIG & EK I (6).jpg

    #2
    All good pieces ... as you might know, the KC with OLS is the earliest version out there.

    The DKiG and EK1 are early-mid production pieces.

    Mathijs

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      #3
      Originally posted by Matthieu View Post
      All good pieces ... as you might know, the KC with OLS is the earliest version out there.

      The DKiG and EK1 are early-mid production pieces.

      Mathijs
      Thank you

      Is the KC a so called S&L-type B-frame 1. Pattern?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Green View Post
        Thank you

        Is the KC a so called S&L-type B-frame 1. Pattern?
        Correct, 1st pattern "B" frame with undrilled loop eye, magnetic core.
        Big chance the OLS has a small "o" mark on the back ?
        Case and ribbon also look good to me.

        Mathijs

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          #5
          Case KC & DK

          Cannot find an O mark, maybe under the solder of the loop!
          Some pictures of the cases:

          KC case (2).jpg

          KC case (1).jpg

          KC case (3).jpg

          KC case (4).jpg

          DK case (3).jpg

          DK case (2).jpg

          DK case (1).jpg

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            #6
            Hello again Henk!!!
            You really do have a great set there!!!
            Earliest 1st pattern RK with the un-finished loop eye, great OLS, earliest type of case, with bevelled bottom edge....
            DK, with the slightly later (but not much) 2nd style pin and early hinge-less case with the pin holding the inner tray in place....
            And a fine EK1 from the same date as the DK!!!!!!!!!
            Wonderful!!!!
            -Nigel
            sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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              #7
              Originally posted by Nigel N View Post
              Hello again Henk!!!
              You really do have a great set there!!!
              Earliest 1st pattern RK with the un-finished loop eye, great OLS, earliest type of case, with bevelled bottom edge....
              DK, with the slightly later (but not much) 2nd style pin and early hinge-less case with the pin holding the inner tray in place....
              And a fine EK1 from the same date as the DK!!!!!!!!!
              Wonderful!!!!
              -Nigel
              Hello again Nigel,

              Thank you very much for the detailed description
              I am glad you like them!

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                #8
                The OLS clearly has the cross guard flaw (left hand upper), present. Super cross

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tony T-S View Post
                  The OLS clearly has the cross guard flaw (left hand upper), present. Super cross
                  Thank you Tony...glad you like it

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                    #10
                    Can someone help me out with a value for this S&L KC with Oaks and Swords and case?

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                      #11
                      Value and what some one is willing to pay for it are 2 different things.

                      Dealer price or collector to collector.

                      I would probably pay between 1000 to 1250 Euros for the set.

                      Dealer price probably around 1500 Euros if not more.

                      Wayne
                      Last edited by bytown; 04-04-2020, 11:43 AM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bytown View Post
                        Value and what some one is willing to pay for it are 2 different things.

                        Dealer price or collector to collector.

                        I would probably pay between 1000 to 1250 Euros for the set.

                        Dealer price probably around 1500 Euros if not more.

                        Wayne
                        I think that's a bit steep going above 1K .... those are Schickle prices .

                        I'm more around 650-800 Euro for the set.

                        Grtz,

                        Mathijs

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Matthieu View Post
                          I think that's a bit steep going above 1K .... those are Schickle prices .

                          I'm more around 650-800 Euro for the set.

                          Grtz,

                          Mathijs
                          Just opinions but I still think more from what I see dealers charging.

                          If I saw this set listed at 650 I would buy it even though I have one just like it.

                          Wayne

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bytown View Post
                            Just opinions but I still think more from what I see dealers charging.

                            If I saw this set listed at 650 I would buy it even though I have one just like it.

                            Wayne
                            650-800 Euros for such a set is way too low in my opinion. That’s wishful thinking.
                            A dealer price around 1500 euros sounds much more realistic.

                            Regards,
                            Alex

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                              #15
                              Thanks for your opinions. At least I now have a price indication

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