INFO on JAPANESE canvas box

[collectors2000]

Hello, I would like to have information on this object found in my grandfather's home. He served as admiral in the Italian Navy during 30's and WWII.
After the war I carried home this box I think of the Japanese marina. Does anyone know what is written on it? I think it's a military feluca. But I'm not familiar with Japanese material / items.
Thank you all for your cooperation.
kind regards
paul

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[beretta1934]

Well some one will come around and translate the kanji later but it is a box that holds the Shoulder Boards for the formal dress uniform. In this case for a Navy officer. They are large, gaudy, showy things.

[chen]

I think that metal plate shows the name of the owner while that leather label shows the manufacture store name.

[chen]

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[GHP]

Well some one will come around and translate the kanji later but it is a box that holds the Shoulder Boards for the formal dress uniform. In this case for a Navy officer. They are large, gaudy, showy things.

Named to
杉浦秀男
Sugiura Hideo

Sugiura is the surname.


--Guy

[beretta1934]

Guy

Collectors2000 is selling this item on the e-stand and calling it " Ww2 rare japanese admiral hat box." Am I missing something here?? Is it an Admirals hat or just an IJN dress hat box that could fit all ranks- maybe you communicated something to him about the marking translated specifically to an Admiral offline?


Doesn't the e-stand rules say that if an item has been a topic of a thread discussion it should reference that thread in the add?

FAQ's: " It is stated on the e-stand rules that if an item is posted for sale said item may be discussed, thus this is the proper course of action. A link to the discussion may be posted on the for sale thread at the discretion of the moderator."

[GHP]

Guy

Collectors2000 is selling this item on the e-stand and calling it " Ww2 rare japanese admiral hat box." Am I missing something here?? Is it an Admirals hat or just an IJN dress hat box that could fit all ranks- maybe you communicated something to him about the marking translated specifically to an Admiral offline?


Doesn't the e-stand rules say that if an item has been a topic of a thread discussion it should reference that thread in the add?

FAQ's: " It is stated on the e-stand rules that if an item is posted for sale said item may be discussed, thus this is the proper course of action. A link to the discussion may be posted on the for sale thread at the discretion of the moderator."

All I did was translate the name seen in the post above. I am OFFENDED by your statement and DEMAND a public apology immediately.

--Guy

[beretta1934]

?????? Guy, RELAX, what in the world could possibly offend you about this ???

It has nothing to do with you - its about the other guy listing something as belonging to an Admiral with no clear path as to how he got there? He says its "a family item" - maybe he shared something with you that he found in other things that supports his claim?? Sorry I asked. I asked a simple question to you - how did what I posted get to this odd path?? I don't want the item at all - its a friggin empty box!

Sorry, but it's about HIM and his honesty - Not yours??? He's asking $500 for a friggin empty BOX!!!

[GHP]

?????? Guy, RELAX, what in the world could possibly offend you about this ???

It has nothing to do with you - its about the other guy listing something as belonging to an Admiral with no clear path as to how he got there? He says its "a family item" - maybe he shared something with you that he found in other things that supports his claim?? Sorry I asked. I asked a simple question to you - how did what I posted get to this odd path?? I don't want the item at all - its a friggin empty box!

Sorry, but it's about HIM and his honesty - Not yours??? He's asking $500 for a friggin empty BOX!!!

Beretta1934, you should have addressed your misgivings to the seller, not me -- ESPECIALLY since he is the original poster. By directing your concerns publicly to me and asking if I sent an off-line message, you are implying I had a hand in that; at least, that is the inference I came to.

With that said, I will accept your apology and chalk up this incident as a miscommunication. Please be a bit more careful in your writings in the future.

Moderator, would you please remove these additional posts?

--Guy

[zachb]

As a third party observer here I saw this thread yesterday and did not interpret that Beretta1934 was impugning Guy's character at all (both of these members are good guys). I think this was a question to see if the e-stand seller had more information about the box (to give the seller an out so-to-speak).

I saw that for sale listing and shook my head also. I even checked Fuller and briefly the web to see if there was an admiral named Sugiura Hideo....no luck.

Due to collecting interests, I check the International e-stand several times a week. I actually think we should get better about policing some of the Japanese listings that are put on there because some things just aren't right.

If any newer collectors see a listing for Japanese material on the e-stand, have questions, and are reluctant to post in this section, please always feel free to pm me and I will be happy to help.

[beretta1934]

Thanks for your input!

i think this was a question to see if the e-stand seller had more information about the box (to give the seller an out so-to-speak).

Exactly!


I , for one, have the highest respect for Guy and all the hard, excellent and valuable work he does for NO charge!

I will certainly double down my efforts to ensure I state things clearly or go to PM's when in doubt!

Sorry again Guy - no slight was intended at all

Sincerely

beretta1934

[GHP]

Thanks for your input!
Exactly!

I , for one, have the highest respect for Guy and all the hard, excellent and valuable work he does for NO charge!

I will certainly double down my efforts to ensure I state things clearly or go to PM's when in doubt!

Sorry again Guy - no slight was intended at all

Sincerely

beretta1934

I apologize for my overreaction and misunderstanding.

--Guy