EspenlaubMilitaria

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Can anyone help translate this mei?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Can anyone help translate this mei?

    I apologise for the poor photo. It is all I currently have in my possession. I am struggling with this but think it may be Ki'emon Yoshi tsugu saku? If anyone can help with the first couple of kanji (place name?), I would be very grateful.

    Thanks in anticipation.


    #2
    While Guy is working on this - - - What IS THIS?!?! I've never seen a signature affixed in such a way! How unusual!

    Comment


      #3
      Holy Cow!!! I sure can't make anything out of it.

      Do any of these ring a bell for our experts?
      菊萬左(or 右) 衛門*連作 ???

      ====
      Drilling Down to Disaster!!!

      About the only kanji I have 100% confidence in are
      ....門....作
      ....Mon ..... Saku

      The first kanji kind of looks like Kiku/Chrysanthemum ... but that's toooooooo fuzzy and I have no confidence in it; still:


      The second kanji looks sort of like "ban/man" [Ten Thousand]; again, I have no confidence in it ... but:


      The next three kanji can be a fairly good guess based on the fifth kanji mon/gate; a traditional name is "so-and-so yuemon or saemon." Since the kanji preceding ~mon looks kinda-sorta like , I can guess that the one preceding is either or :
      左衛門 Sa-e-mon, or
      右衛門 U-e-mon

      the sixth kanji is just too obliterated to read.
      ?

      The seventh kanji looks like Ren to me:


      The eighth kanji is "saku/made by"



      I hope someone can find a clue somewhere in that "dog's breakfast" I posted.
      --Guy

      Comment


        #4
        Originally posted by BruceP View Post
        While Guy is working on this - - - What IS THIS?!?! I've never seen a signature affixed in such a way! How unusual!
        額銘 - Gaku-mei [framed name]. An original signature inlaid in a cut-off or folded over when a noted sword is shortened.

        A shows just a shortening without displacing the original signature; B~C show the fold-over method; C illustrates the cut-out-and-insert method.


        Errrrrr ..... how did you know I was working on the mei????


        --Guy

        Comment


          #5
          Orikaeshi Mei, when the blade was shortened the mei was folded over and inlaid into the tang.

          Guy's illustration gives a better "visual" explanation.
          Last edited by pmiya; 01-17-2017, 08:50 PM.

          Comment


            #6
            Originally posted by GHP View Post
            額銘 - Gaku-mei [framed name]. An original signature inlaid in a cut-off or folded over when a noted sword is shortened.

            A shows just a shortening without displacing the original signature; B~C show the fold-over method; C illustrates the cut-out-and-insert method.


            Errrrrr ..... how did you know I was working on the mei????

            --Guy
            Ha! I'm just THAT good, Guy!!! Ok, so it was a cry for help! Thanks for the info, I had never seen that done before. Too cool!

            Beater- thanks for the exciting and cool nakago!!!

            Comment


              #7
              Thanks to Guy for your valiant effort. I knew it would be a challenge with the blurry photo and sometimes the process of folding the Mei results in hammer marks on the actually mei, if poorly executed.
              I am usually suspicious of this type of Mei as it is easy for the forgers (of old) to get up to all sorts of trickery. The sword belongs to a dealer who I have bought many swords from but I've decided that I will pass on this one.
              Glad it was able to extend the knowledge of what you might encounter to some of the new comers to our wonderful hobby.

              Comment

              Users Viewing this Thread

              Collapse

              There is currently 0 user online. 0 members and 0 guests.

              Most users ever online was 10,032 at 08:13 PM on 09-28-2024.

              Working...
              X