US Navy Chief W.E. Gonterman's Bring Back Flag

[RonR]

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[GHP]

Yea, in the photo he is holding the same FAKE "Tojo flag."

Same incorrect Japanese flag dimensions (sun spot is too large for the white space).


--Guy

[GHP]

Post #5, top image is the fake Tojo Hideki signature.


--Guy

[RussellM]

It looks like the same flag to me as well, and a nice piece to have with the album.

The top row of characters are on a downward slant, which is also visible in the pics.

I think he is holding it back to front in some of the pics.

Great to have some period pics of it - makes you wonder under what circumstances it was obtained, if it is a fake!

Regards

Russ

[MAUSER99]

Very, odd in deed... Only fake thing Ive seen photographed in a "real" period ww2 photo. I do have a photo of CB's faking jap flags. If anyone wants to see it email me and they can add it to this thread. So the Tojo signature was added and faked.. Its common knowledge these Hairy cairy flags were faked during the war.

[blinky]

I suspect this was "taken" (both the flag and photograph) in the Philippines which had a large Chinese population. A few hours after the first GI stepped off the boat they probably had a lucrative business set up of making fake flags to sell or trade to unsuspecting sailors.
I don't know but to me the flag (being a fake) along with the picture of the sailor holding it right after he got it is much more interesting than an original Japanese piece.

[GeorgeP]

Its common knowledge these Hairy cairy flags were faked during the war.

What does "hairy cairy" flag mean?




Tom

[blinky]

What does "hairy cairy" flag mean?




Tom

Holy cow!

[GeorgeP]

I have always wondered about the origin of that phrase and how it came into use. I am familiar with "hara kiri" but don't quite grasp how it morphed into hairy cairy (or other spelling variations, I am sure). The Japanese seems simple enough to pronounce. (That, plus Harry Caray came onto the scene in 1945, so possibly a post war created phrase, if indeed his name had any phonetic connection to begin with.--The 7th inning stretch has not been the same, by the way).



Tom

[blinky]

There are two pretty famous actors (father and son), Harry Carey and Harry Carey Jr., who appeared in westerns from the silent movie era through the 1950's. I'd think any WWII GI would be very familiar with the name....that's the only connection I could think of. Somewhere out there, probably long forgotten, some Grad student did his thesis on hara kiri vs Harry Carey.

[MAUSER99]

I have always wondered about the origin of that phrase and how it came into use. I am familiar with "hara kiri" but don't quite grasp how it morphed into hairy cairy (or other spelling variations, I am sure). The Japanese seems simple enough to pronounce. (That, plus Harry Caray came onto the scene in 1945, so possibly a post war created phrase, if indeed his name had any phonetic connection to begin with.--The 7th inning stretch has not been the same, by the way).



Tom

it's quite American to butcher the spelling and pronunciation of foreign things and names. we've been doing it for years,,,,

[GeorgeP]

Somewhere out there, probably long forgotten, some Grad student did his thesis on hara kiri vs Harry Carey.

I am sure that would be an interesting read!


Thanks for the name info., I did not know that.



Tom

[RonR]

What does "hairy cairy" flag mean?




Tom

I think that Harry would approve


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