Help with Blade Mkr

[nickn]

Hello stu
Gendiato
Hand forged water quenched
Showato
Non traditional made Oil quenched
I know not strictly accurate
Nick

[Stu W]

Hello stu
Gendiato
Hand forged water quenched
Showato
Non traditional made Oil quenched
I know not strictly accurate
Nick

Thanks Nick, that is how I read your comment but wanted to make sure we were on the same page with the term before commenting further. What makes you think it's water quenched? I'm not able to determine that from the photos. I'll be the first to admit that my eyes are not as sharp as they once were but if you can point me in the correct direction I'll take another look.

Thanks,
Stu

[nickn]

The hamon looks water quenched and I can see activity within which you don't get with an oil quenched blade

[Stu W]

The hamon looks water quenched and I can see activity within which you don't get with an oil quenched blade

Thanks Nick.



OK, back to jiro90 and the value question.

I cannot see the activity mentioned by Nick so remain uncertain that this blade is a gendaito as defined in the context mentioned above. I'm not saying Nick is incorrect and that it's a Showato, just that I can't yet call it gendaito. I'm hopeful that Bob Coleman or Brian Robinson might offer an opinion in that regard.

As to value. Given the condition I believe the sword would have a retail value of about 1K USD in the North American market if determined to be a Showato and perhaps double that if it's a Gendaito as we are using the term.

For anyone reading this thread and perhaps puzzled about how the term Gendaito is being used have a look here ...

http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/showato.htm

Regards,
Stu

[nickn]

stu
there are lots of word that collectors use , anodised of a blued german dagger scabbard comes to mind, that are not strictly accurate
but i think we are to old to start using "proper terms"
nick

[nickn]

pic of scabbard

this is the photo that seems to show activity you do not see in oil quenched blades

[Stu W]

stu
there are lots of word that collectors use , anodised of a blued german dagger scabbard comes to mind, that are not strictly accurate
but i think we are to old to start using "proper terms"
nick

Hi Nick, I agree ... but added that link for any people who might be wondering. I too think traditionally forged and water quenched when using the term gendaito but those who are interested in swords from a militaria only perspective might not.

I'll have another look at the photo you referenced in your other post. Thanks.

Regards,
Stu

[nickn]

and the boshi has activity

[Brian Robinson]

Pure gut feel is that it is Gendaito as opposed to Showato.
Nicely finished nakago with yasurime, well signed and with the familiy mon. Plus his blades have papered before, and the use of kitae instead of just saku. No guarantees, and I could easily be wrong. But it shouldn't be hard to look closely at the hamon for signs of nie and hada.
Worth having checked out.

Brian