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    Japanese Sword Izumi no Kami Kane???

    I have this military mounted old katana with an aluminum scabbard in my collection for decades and have been stumped by the signature. The tang has been shortened and the last characters of the signature are gone. I'm reading "Izumi no Kami Kane" and then possibly the top bit of "Nosada." Any thoughts? Blade is about 68.5 cm from notch to tip.
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    Last edited by paulj; 05-08-2015, 01:36 PM.

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    Mei and hamon detail
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      #3
      Was there one named Kanenao? The left-over portion looks like "nao" would fit.

      和泉守兼直

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        #4
        From what I can find, there are Kanenao smiths but none with a Izumi no Kami title.

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          #5
          possibly Izumi no Kami Minamoto Kanesada

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            #6
            Originally posted by Bob Coleman View Post
            possibly Izumi no Kami Minamoto Kanesada
            Maybe! Wish the bottom of the kanji was still there. This is what it would look like in kanji:

            和泉守兼

            Izumi no Kami Minamoto Kanesada
            See here



            --Guy

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              #7
              Guy-
              You missed the Minamoto kanji.
              The blade appears to have a course jigane, which is a feature of smiths working in Musashi(Edo).

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                #8
                Originally posted by Bob Coleman View Post
                Guy-
                You missed the Minamoto kanji.
                The blade appears to have a course jigane, which is a feature of smiths working in Musashi(Edo).
                Hi Bob,

                I intentionally left out the Minamoto kanji because it is not engraved on the tang example Paul posted. If one opens the linked page in my previous post (Index of Japanese Swordsmiths A~M), he'll see that our kanji sample is attributed to the 3rd generation Kanesada; the "Minamoto Kanesada" signature is done by the 4th generation. [That is, *IF* that last kanji was ~sada.]

                I'm not well-versed in these arcane sciences -- did I make a boo-boo?

                --Guy

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                  #9
                  Correct Guy, no Minamoto in the given mei.
                  If one looks on page 94 of Markus's free Nihonto Compendium here: https://markussesko.files.wordpress....pendium-e1.pdf you can get a list of all the smiths with titles.
                  Btw, everyone with an interest in Nihonto should have this great resource at hand.

                  Izumi no Kami gives the following possibilities:

                  Kanefuji (兼藤), Eiroku (永禄, 1558-1570), Mino
                  Kanehisa (兼久), Tenshō (天正, 1573-1592), Mino
                  Kanemichi (兼陸), Kyōhō (享保, 1716-1736), Mino/Yamashiro
                  Kanesada (兼定), 2nd gen , Eishō (永正, 1504-1521), Mino
                  Kanesada (兼定), 11st gen , Bunkyū (文久, 1861-1864), Ōshū
                  Kanesada (兼定), Genna (元和, 1615-1624), Mino
                  Kanesada (兼定), Kan´ei (寛永, 1624-1644), Settsu
                  Kanesada (兼定), Kanbun (寛文, 1661-1673), Musashi
                  Kanesada (兼貞), 3rd gen , Eishō (永正, 1504-1521), Mino
                  Kanesada (兼貞), 4th gen , Daiei (大永, 1521-1528), Mino
                  Kaneshige (兼重), 1st gen , Shōhō (正保, 1644-1648), Musashi
                  Kanetomo (兼友), Tenbun (天文, 1532-1555), Mino
                  Kaneyoshi (兼吉), 4th gen , Eishō (永正, 1504-1521), Mino

                  Kanetomo (KAN2567) or Kaneyoshi looks like a strong possibility based on the left over strokes, with Kanetomo looking the more likely choice since Kaneyoshi signed Nōshū Izumi no Kami Kaneyoshi.
                  Kanetomo (兼友), Tenbun (天文, 1532-1555), Mino – „Kanetomo“ (兼友), „Izumi no Kami Kanetomo“ (和泉守兼友), San´ami school,
                  like the Kanetomo mentioned above, he too made a Nanbokuchō-like sugata with an ō-kissaki, the jigane is a standing-out itame mixed with
                  masame, the hamon is a ko-midare or gunome in nioi- or ko-nie-deki, the yakiba becomes broader at the monouchi
                  Something to at least narrow it down a bit...

                  Brian
                  Last edited by Brian Robinson; 05-10-2015, 08:51 AM.

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                    #10
                    Thanks for the research and input! I found the Izumi no Kami list and was about to work through it and Brian beat me. His Kanetomo attribution seems plausible given the remaining visible strokes

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Brian Robinson View Post
                      Correct Guy, no Minamoto in the given mei.
                      If one looks on page 94 of Markus's free Nihonto Compendium here:
                      Brian,

                      Thanks for that pdf -- I didn't have it.



                      Originally posted by Brian Robinson View Post
                      Kanetomo (KAN2567) ... looks like a strong possibility based on the left over strokes, with Kanetomo looking the more likely choice...
                      I think your assumption regarding Kanetomo is sound -- the residual strokes look to me like the first two stroke of tomo now that you mention it.


                      --Guy

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