Had a decent show this weekend, picked up this decent Japanese helmet, a what I believe to be a O.S.S. expandable baton! Can anyone translate what is left of the kanji on rim, its bracketed by red symbols that may have been added by the world renown BUBBA!
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Originally posted by bangbangsan View Post小 & 岛 for sure.原 is make sense too.
But also possible 東?
東島
Tōjima
In cases like this -- with faint paint -- I would trust your instinct more since you are a native-writer of Chinese characters. Things just look more right to your's, Nick's, & Shindenkai's eyes than mine since kanji/hanja is totally foreign to me.
Thanks!
--Guy
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Originally posted by GHP View PostHi ... yes! Quite possibly "East" as well:
東島
Tōjima
In cases like this -- with faint paint -- I would trust your instinct more since you are a native-writer of Chinese characters. Things just look more right to your's, Nick's, & Shindenkai's eyes than mine since kanji/hanja is totally foreign to me.
Thanks!
--Guy
You're doing very good job on identify Kanji!
Is 東島 pronounced HIGASHIJIMA when use as last name?
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Any markings on the collapsable baton? FYI, it could be Japanese (post-war).
The concept of Expandable Batons originated in the Orient. The first commercially
available weapons of this type were the Tokushu Keibo manufactured by the Nobel
Company in Tokyo, Japan, and the Ni Baton designed by Professor Ni of the Central
States Police College in Taipei.
The Nobel baton was widely distributed in Japan, being used by both the Tokyo
Metropolitan Police Department and the National Railroad Police.
source
"The most recent development in police combat arts involves the use of a weapon called
the tokushu keibo, or special police club. This is a collapsible tubular truncheon made of metal
alloy; because of the rapid manner in which this truncheon can be extended from its fully
telescoped position, it is also referred to as tobi-dashi jutte, or "jump-out truncheon." The tokushu
keibo appeared in 1961, at which time it underwent a five-year period of study by various police
technical commissions. Essential in its development were the police combat instructors Shimizu Takaji,
Kuroda Ichitaro, and Kaminoda Tsunemori...."
Newer version:
--Guy
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Originally posted by GHP View PostAny markings on the collapsable baton? FYI, it could be Japanese (post-war).
Quoting Donn F. Draeger [if you're a martial arts historian, his name will mean something to you]
"The most recent development in police combat arts involves the use of a weapon called
the tokushu keibo, or special police club. This is a collapsible tubular truncheon made of metal
alloy; because of the rapid manner in which this truncheon can be extended from its fully
telescoped position, it is also referred to as tobi-dashi jutte, or "jump-out truncheon." The tokushu
keibo appeared in 1961, at which time it underwent a five-year period of study by various police
technical commissions. Essential in its development were the police combat instructors Shimizu Takaji,
Kuroda Ichitaro, and Kaminoda Tsunemori...."
Newer version:
--Guy
Learned a lot from person with lot Knowledge from this forum like you & Nick,Stu ... Thanks!
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Originally posted by Steve Flanagan View PostThanks guys for info, the baton is pretty much textbook O.S.S. completely unmarked
Many thanks,
--Guy
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"Blitz" [Lightening]
I've answered my own question ... kinda-sorta. It seems the stahlrute [steel baton] was a Sicherheits Polizei (SIPO) article of issue:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...6&postcount=12
[EDIT: further reading of that thread: the expandable baton was commercially available, not a SIPO article of issue; anyone could buy one. One commenter thinks they were produced since the 1920s.]
Ca. 1932 catalogue:
--GuyLast edited by GHP; 03-30-2015, 02:09 PM.
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Baton
You might be right Ive emailed the O.S.S. society as it did come in with a textbook O.S.S. stilletto with the metal spatula type tip to scabbard. We will see, didnt pay much for it, but found one auction house records, thats it so far.
Well we will find out, the president of the O.S.S. society is looing at the photos now! He advised yes they used the spring baton or "cosh"
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