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    A very good haul today...

    Good Evening all,
    After a flat out week of working, I decided to shout myself an early Christmas present. Supposedly all to the same Soldier.

    I hope you enjoy..

    Matt.













    #2
    I can't see the photos, and would like to see your haul!

    Cheers!
    Taka

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      #3
      Hmmm. Very strange, I can see them...

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        #4
        The enlistment banners are for Taniguchi Masami*.

        谷口正己

        The flag 2nd Lieutenant Taniguchi.

        谷口
        Taniguchi Shō-i
        2LT Taniguchi


        --Guy


        *Other pronunciations of 正己

        正己 (せいき) Seiki
        正己 (まさき) Masaki
        正己 (まさみ) Masami
        正己 (まさわれ) Masaware
        Last edited by GHP; 12-02-2013, 12:43 PM. Reason: Figured out it was a RANK, not a given name on the Flag

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          #5
          Very Nice.

          Very nice Score. Can we see some close ups of the (1000 stitch?) Belt?
          Congrats.

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            #6
            Sure thing mate.











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              #7
              Nice seeing a grouping like this still intact

              PG-

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                #8
                Thanks Paul,
                Its a pet peeve of mine when profit gets in the way of history.
                What drew me to it was the fact that the flag looks like it was signed by what looks to be a few of his former troops, and they mention locations of where this was signed. I am under the impression that this was forbidden.

                Anyway I am glad you enjoy.

                Cheers
                Matt.

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                  #9
                  Not by his troops, but most likely his dorm colleagues from what might have been an university dorm.
                  The interesting thing is that the dorm is named after a Westerner with a name like Avery or Apery. Kumamoto, Kyushu is also mentioned, so I thought Kumamoto University, but could not find any info on such a dormitory.

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                    #10
                    Thank you Nick.

                    Very interesting information. The seller mentioned that one of the inscriptions mentions Luzon and a place called Aparri, in the Philippines. Is this correct?

                    In your learned opinion what could this mean? Someone he was with in the dorm was from the Philippines?

                    Thank you for your assistance.

                    Matt



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                      #11
                      Interesting .... this SAME grouping is addressed on 2 December 2013 at Axis History Fourm:

                      Scroll down half-way

                      Originally posted by hisashi
                      谷口正巳 Taniguchi Masami (maybe, as always) was an army 2nd lieutenant (farewell banner shows army type rising sun). A few signer on the flag wrote 'in Aparri (アパリ)', also a man with the word 呂宋 (=Luzon, Philippine). In some reason Lt. Taniguchi had many friends in Aparri, Luzon. So I guess the banner was used in Taniguchi's home town, and Hinomaru was presented from another group of friends.

                      Source

                      Is someone shopping around for better answers?

                      --Guy

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                        #12
                        Regarding that entire statement about Philippines/Luzon/Apari ....

                        。。。部呂宋アパリ

                        Zai ..[Hi?]. Bu Ruzon Apari

                        I cannot find the second kanji, but can it be a written variant of which is "Hi" (sounds like "hee") . Philippines, in kanji, is 律賓 or in Chinese 律賓


                        The first kanji "zai" means IN (as in "in America"). Japanese business men assigned to the US are called 米日本企業駐在員 Zai Bei Nihon kigyō chūzai-in ["Japanese company employees stationed-IN-America"]. The American military family housing areas in Japan are 日米軍住宅 "Zai-Nichi Beigun Jutaku" [Living Quarters for American Military in Japan.]

                        THEREFORE ... I think the first three kanji 在[比?] 部 Zai-Hi Bu means "in the Philippines group/section" of Japanese at 呂宋 Luzon, アパリ Apari.

                        So, my whole thesis rests on whether or not that second kanji is a variation of or

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                          #13
                          GHP, you are right. It is indeed 在比部呂宋アパリ. I was off big time on this one. What appeared to me to be 寮 for dorm was actually the 宋 from Luzon. So it must have been a department of some tropical region development company that signed. One guy signing is from Kumamoto, but that was not the scene for all this.

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                            #14
                            Guy,
                            Not 'shopping around for better answers' ... just trying to get the full story so as to honour him properly.

                            As has been seen on this forum many times, people misinterpret, misread or even fail to recognise the characters written. It does not hurt to get second opinions or fresh eyes on the case....

                            Works for historians.... aren't we the same? Would a historian or academic just read one book to write a thesis or create a theory? No of course not..... Research is the key. Many different ideas and interpretations create an overall and an in depth knowledge of the history of these brave men and shed's new or interesting light onto there lives....

                            By the way, thank you for the help Nick and Guy, it's people like you that help the stories unfold and make these forums a better place.

                            Matt.
                            Last edited by grimnar; 12-04-2013, 07:08 AM.

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                              #15
                              "Nick and Guy, it's people like you that help the stories unfold and make these forums a better place."

                              I second That!

                              PG-

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