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    #16
    Re photo 5/5

    Another signature on the left side for Kendo 3rd dan along with ~kenjutsu 2nd dan. I can't read the kanji above the ~kenjutsu

    剣道参段
    ~剣術弐段


    Apparently many young Mr. Hayashi was a member of a kendo dojo. Not unique in those days -- really common -- but it must have meant a lot to him since they gave him a flag.

    --Guy

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      #17
      ANOTHER Budo Signature [Photo 3/5]

      Originally posted by GHP View Post
      This one says "Judo Shodan - Kendo 4th dan-- Yamaguchi [can't read the given name]. A very artistic signature:

      柔道初段
      剣道四段
      山口 OOOO



      And I'm not 100% certain about "Yamaguchi" because of the flourishes ... but I think it is.

      --Guy

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        #18
        Nyuu-Kai Flag!!

        Hey! This flag was given him when he joined an association -- the far right says

        OOO 入会

        Nyuukai means "Admission to the Association".

        Well, I'm guessing Butokukai -- but I can't read it, so it's probably NOT the Butokukai. Perhaps some other martial art association?

        Any native readers out there????? Taka-san??????
        助けて
        [help!!]


        --Guy

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          #19
          I would like to help but, I can' t see any photo from this thread Guy-san!

          Ahhhhhhh!

          Taka

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            #20
            Thanks a bunch for the info. So would this have been a flag carried into combat by a soldier?

            I think I might try to do some research on Mr. Hayashi.

            Thanks again,
            Joshua

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              #21
              Originally posted by J7W22007 View Post
              I would like to help but, I can' t see any photo from this thread Guy-san!

              Ahhhhhhh!

              Taka
              Taka-san, it's 11:00pm Wednesday night here. In the morning I'll send the images to you if you PM your email address to me.

              --Guy

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                #22
                Most of the photos are out of focus and not suitable at all for reading, so I only took a peek at it before I got sick, but geographical locations are clearly mentioned like Otsu City in Shiga Prefecture. The first line is 三重県人会, an Association of people hailing from Mie, the neighboring prefecture to Shiga. Of course, that means these people are presently not in Mie, but most certainly in Otsu, Shiga.

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                  #23
                  Thank you Guy-san for sending me the photos.

                  I think this flag was dated before or around 1943.

                  It is because in the 2/5 photo shows べンベルグ (Asahi Benberugu) - Asahi Bemberg Fabrics. (April 15th, 1929 ~ April 5th, 1943)

                  For reference:

                  http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%...8C%96%E6%88%90 (Japanese Only)

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuprammonium_rayon

                  Regards,
                  Taka
                  Last edited by J7W22007; 09-05-2013, 08:03 PM.

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                    #24
                    Thanks to Nick and Taka-san for the additional clarifications.

                    --Guy

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                      #25
                      Thanks for all the information everyone!!! Sorry about the poor pics, my hands shake just a little when I try to take close pictures.

                      So this is what I've gathered.
                      This flag is made out of cuprammonium rayon, and Mr. Hayashi was a Kendo instructor, and was given this flag by his dojo or a kendo organization before going off to war. And that this gentleman was from Otsu city in the Shiga prefecture. And that this flag was done up for him in and around 1943.

                      I'm guessing this flag is 100% authentic (I figure it was but there is always that chance).

                      Thanks again guys, you all are the best !!!!!!

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Josh Beckett View Post
                        .....Mr. Hayashi was a Kendo instructor, and was given this flag by his dojo or a kendo organization before going off to war.
                        Two clarifications:

                        1. I think Mr. Hayashi was probably a kendo student; or, for some reason knew several high-ranking martial artists. 4th and 5th dan meant more in those days -- harder to obtain.

                        2. Nick Komiya correctly identified the Association as the "Mie-ken Jin-Kai" [Association of Persons from Mie Prefecture]. I was only able to recognize "jin Kai" and deduced (incorrectly) that it was a martial arts association based on the teachers' signatures.

                        I especially like the flag because of the kendo instructors' signatures AND mention of the Dai Nippon Butokukai [Greater Japan Martial Virtue Society].

                        Cheers,
                        --Guy

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                          #27
                          Thanks for all the info and the translations everyone. Also, what do I do about preserving it? I thought about getting it put in archival framing, but is there a cheaper way to preserve this?

                          Thanks

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