NCO Sword Help

[grimnar]

Hello,
Just wondering what you think of these two swords?

Thank you.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[zachb]

Sword one is about to end....I'm skeptical at a glance.

Update: I think both are bad.

[Papa Nambu]

First might be ok, that paint looks suspicious to me though. Some other details I'd want a closer look at. Auction is over now anyway, so I hope it's good for the buyer's sake.

Second one, not enough pictures and the ones that are posted aren't showing me anything that would help me feel comfortable about bidding on it.

[gunto]

First is fake.
Second looks ok.

[zachb]

Second one purports to be a Nagoya...because the numbers are read parallel to the back edge. So if this is the case where is the NA inspection stamp? The Kissaki looks bad as does the habaki.

[grimnar]

Thanks guys. Every bit of knowledge helps.