are these Japanese of Chinese swords?

[helmetbuyers]

Hello forum

I am trying to identify these two swords with leather tassels. these are the only photos I have.

are these Japanese... or Chinese... IE Nationalist Army?

any idea as to value/what to offer? Thanks for the help Robert

[helmetbuyers]

sorry guys

I can open the attachment to view the photos... but... can't copy or edit it to post them.... grrrrr