japanese flag real or fake need help

[dasreich]

im thinking of buying this is it authentic to the period or reproduction, also what exactly were these used for. thanks in advance.
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[VIPER]

I am not the expert but I see no red flags and the kanji appears to be legit. I think it is a nice Japanese "Good Luck Flag"............Best Jimmy

[dasreich]

what was this flag used for?

[VIPER]

They were presented to Japanese soldiers by family and friends prior to their departure. They were given as tokens of good fortune for the soldier in battle. They were pretty much standard equipment for the Japanese soldier, along with a Seninbari (thousand stitch belts). Given as an amulet to protect the soldier from harm. Such things, at least too me, are pieces of a personal individual history marking a turbulent era.

[juoneen]

Silk or cotton? Ive seen both, with artwork like tigers or other such things adds a premuim. I have one carried in the back of a helmet. and still has blood on it. At least thats what the vet said.

[dasreich]

the flag is Made from heavy silk, it measures 41" x 29.75 The vet that captured it was an army sgt. with the 7th Infantry Division...thats how the story goes anyway. the red spots on this banner are sappose to be blood as well but i dont know for sure. what would the value of somthing like this be..just a ballpark figure would be nice.

thank you in advance for all your help

[dasreich]

the dealer is asking $150 for the flag is this to much?? please let me know, i have established so far that the flag is real..but is it over priced?

[Nick Komiya]

Forget the flag, it's a fake. I wasn`t going to bother opening the post having read your original title, but now that I´ve looked at it, I don´t want to be a silent partner to fraud. Someone copied a flag from my post here. Perhaps an upgrade from the manufacturer of the infamous Tojo flag.

[zachb]

Nick,

Are you saying this is a copy of a flag you recently posted here on the WAF?

Dasreich,

Who is selling this flag and where did they get it? Maybe we have a chance to track down the faker if this was made really recently.

Just and idea. Zach

[Nick Komiya]

Yes, the unit designation at the right is copied from flag 7 of this thread of mine http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...light=research The faker, however, managed to mis-spell the 7th character. Otherwise it's embellished with fake stamps and some legitimate slogans stolen from elsewhere mixed with nonsense such as city names. Won't fool a Japanese, but enough to do damage in the US market. My posts, Mike's book, though our intention is to enhance enjoyment of these items, we do also end up providing excellent reference and endless legitimate inscriptions for fakers to copy.

[MikeB]

Japanese flag...

Nick's last post goes to the heart of the matter. Once a source of information, whether it be a book like mine or the thorough examples/analysis that Nick often makes, can be used for good or bad. Information provides the power to be able to study good and bad examples and to become familiar with both. Later on, those same sources can provide a "good" place for "bad" flags to originate. Nick and I discussed just this subject months ago. By releasing a book, an article, or in depth thread on a forum like this, you provide fertile ground for the fakers. That shouldn't stop us from studying these subjects, posting photos, or writing about them. It means we should study and share even more. The faker seems to be enjoying making these flags yet at the same time, mis-spells enough to let us know that the items are not genuine. I am almost of the feeling that this (the mis-spellings) are being done on purpose as an "in your face" joke. But who knows....
The flag in question reminds me of a "stamp man" example. I am not saying it is but many of you will now be nodding your heads as you read this. Two hanko per name, as is seen on a few of the lines of this flag, make no sense. MikeB

[Jareth]

Where is this dealer located? Japan?

[Edokko]

Undoubtly made here in the States. The crappy Kanji mistakes are not a Japanese work.

[MikeB]

Japanese Flag, Real or Fake....

Takehito-
You could be correct about where these are being made, but I think they could possibly be originating in Canada. I have started to hear "stuff" through the grape vine....MikeB

[Edokko]

Mike, yes it may well be made in Canada, possibly marked by Chinese entreprenuers there. The writer does indeed know some calligraphy, but not true Japanese style Kanji.
I look forward to meeting you again in a few days !